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While Stephen Kernan would not have been on my teamsheet I thought he was one of our better performers on the day.he was finding space very well in the third quarter. At one stage in the third quarter, he was standing on his own in front of goal waving frantically with Stevie in possession in front of the Gerry Arthurs stand, Stevie didn't see him, didn't pass and a goal opportunity was wasted. If it was the other way round and Kernan didn't pass to McDonnell he would have been hung!!!

Sorry GPA, I didn't make myself clear, by keeping Geezer "on board" I meant on the management team.  However, your point about Toal and Vernon I would disagree with. Toal, especially, would have been a useful asset to have when we were on top and kicking all the wides. An accurate forward like him could well have got the score or two that would have taken us over the finish line.

With the benefit of hindsight, the downward curve started after the 05 semi final, the last two league campaigns have been very poor and Ronan Clarke virtually won the Ulster and kept us in the Kerry game on his own last year. Joe has brought us unprecedented success but he definitely stayed a year too long. With Clarke gone before the year started we had the whole league campaign to organise things and adjust our style of play in the forwards, result was 18 pts in two matches. It has definitely been a wasted year.  As stated in previous posts I am happy with the talent coming through but would definitely be keeping Geezer on board to instil the determination and will to win on the new crop coming through. Hope the new manager plays them! Great to see Kevin Dyas coming on but keeping Vernon and Toal on the bench was unforgiveable.

Congratulations to Sligo, showed us Armagh people in 2002 that they were a really serious team, surprised it took ye to now to win some silverware but I'm sure it was worth the wait!

You can see where Kernan's thinking is by putting out the same starting 15 but if Mal Mackin is first substitute ahead of Vernon or Toal there may well be a rush for the exit gates!!!

Are Clarke and Mallon listed in the subs?

Reading some of this stuff about the Tyrone performance against Donegal reminds me of 2004 when we stuffed Donegal in the Ulster final, a lot of the media had us nailed on as All-Ireland champs, and we all know what happened next!

SuperDooperCooper, as an Armagh man, I hope we're in Round 3 of the qualifiers to worry about who we draw, but if we're there, there's no doubt that Cork would be the hardest draw from the beaten provincial finalists, assuming Tyrone beat Monaghan. They're a serious outfit, with Kerry playing really well to beat them.

Match is definitely not on live, Connacht football final and Munster hurling final is the double header on the TV on Sunday. BBC won't have any coverage, so it's the highlights on Sunday night you'll be relying on Spirit. And with them having to show highlights of all 8 qualifiers I can't see the highlights being extensive.

Pints, we'll leave it at that. As I say, I agree with most of your account. Just took issue with a few points and we'll agree to differ on those. Don't agree to being called a liar though!

Pints, I said I'm not going to get into a slanging match so this is my last post on this matter. Yesterday's post was going to be my last but then you started calling me a liar!!!!
How many times have I to say that I'm NOT a Cullyhanna man, I was there as a NEUTRAL!!!! I have read your posts on the matter and the majority of what you say on the matter has been correct, however, I feel you have over the top with this fight against "the evil empire of Cullyhanna". As stated on an earlier post, I agree fully with you on the re-appointment of Casey. There were incidents that I have pointed out that Silverbridge people were involved with that they can not be proud of, that's all I'm saying. Are you seriously saying that over the two games that every single Silverbridge man can say they did nothing that they were ashamed of?
And before you say it I know that there will be more than a few Cullyhanna people in the same boat.
I though I'd bring a neutral's point of view to the discussion and not be branded a liar!! I know what I saw!!

Fair enough full back, look as I said I'm a county man first. I saw myself arguing with Tyronies when I started posting not Silverbridge men!! But the Cullyhanna bashing had started again there with the "bring your gum shields" stuff and I thought I would add my tuppence worth. Nothing sinister.

twotwo, how many times have I to criticise the Cullyhanna men in my posts before you realise I have no blinkers. I was at the game as a neutral, I'm one of those dreaded "county first" men. No major loyalty to any club.
Your fascination with Silverbridge, however, has been questioned by Pints on previous pages.

Pints, I can honestly say I don't care enough about Cullyhanna to get into a slanging match with you, but there were several men on the field on the second day in suits fighting (in their suits as there was a Bridge wedding on that day). And yes the other victim of your No 12 was Ciaran McKeever, he tried to take the young lad out of it in front of me in the stand and when he was on the ground he was stamped on. Now you may say that he deserved it and fair enough, but what happened the other Cullyhanna lad was inexcusable. I had my 6 year old son at the match and NOTHING of what went on that day was pretty.
My reading of what happened the second day was that after the Bridge started to pull away in extra time your No 12 knew what was going to happen next, signalled to your bench that he was "injured" and when the Cullyhanna lads saw what was happening they wanted to get him before he went off. What happened after that should be an embarassment to the Cullyhanna club, and I know from speaking to a number of decent Cullyhanna men (there are some!) they think it is.

[]fully agree with him on the thuggish behaviour of some the Cullyhanna boys was unacceptable and I also can't believe a right-minded committee could re-instate Casey as manager]

As a lurker for a year or so now, I have read pints' comments on the St Pat's v Silverbridge melee. I was at the matches as a neutral with a "loose" connection to St Pat's (i.e. the in-laws) and ]fully agree with him on the thuggish behaviour of some the Cullyhanna boys was unacceptable and I also can't believe a right-minded committee could re-instate Casey as manager.  But I feel that it's fair to also draw people's attention to the fact that the Silverbridge no.12 tramped on two defenceless Cullyhanna players as they lay on the ground in the first match, seriously injuring both of them (one of them was a lad that I believe he spent a lot of time travelling up to college in Belfast with). And from where I was sitting in the second match the Silverbridge fans were all too keen to join in the fun on the pitch also.  So this notion that he's portraying that all the thugs were on the St Pat's side is laughable.