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Show posts MenuQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 09:31:21 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 09:24:27 PMQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 09:02:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 08:55:09 PMQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 08:49:32 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on May 21, 2024, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 05:32:33 PMWhy does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.
Once they started he had to take a side
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.
Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.
After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.
As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.
I assume you live in US? You'd actually know just by reading your post.
Biden loves a good war, if you listened to his bullshit speech in Ballina about the Mayo man who joined the yank army it'd make you sick. No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democracy. Sorry.
How about telling me what you disagree with instead of vacuous nonsense like that last sentence?
And yeah, I do live in the US and despite the American consensus on Israel, for which I share your disdain, there is a huge difference between them on policy (we'll not get into Trump's personal pathologies).
If there are two sheep in a field and all you hear all day is that one sheep is better than the other, you'll probably start believing it. You might even join in speaking on behalf of that sheep. Everyone else just sees two sheep in a field, eating the same grass and owned by the same Farmer.
You sound like someone who just likes to argue just for the sake of it.
I've already said, multiple times, that Biden has to follow the long-standing US broad consensus on Israel.
But believe it or not, the US, like most countries, has a multitude of other problems and policy areas outside of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
If you're saying there's no difference between Biden and Trump, or the Dems and GOP in general, on anything, then you haven't got a clue.
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 21, 2024, 09:15:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 08:45:33 PMThere is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.
I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.
Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.
Quote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 09:02:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 08:55:09 PMQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 08:49:32 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on May 21, 2024, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 05:32:33 PMWhy does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.
Once they started he had to take a side
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.
Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.
After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.
As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.
I assume you live in US? You'd actually know just by reading your post.
Biden loves a good war, if you listened to his bullshit speech in Ballina about the Mayo man who joined the yank army it'd make you sick. No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democracy. Sorry.
How about telling me what you disagree with instead of vacuous nonsense like that last sentence?
And yeah, I do live in the US and despite the American consensus on Israel, for which I share your disdain, there is a huge difference between them on policy (we'll not get into Trump's personal pathologies).
Quote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 08:49:32 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on May 21, 2024, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 05:32:33 PMWhy does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.
Once they started he had to take a side
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.
Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.
After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.
As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.
Quote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 05:32:33 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.
Once they started he had to take a side
Quote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 02:46:52 PMQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 02:10:15 PMIt's degree lads. The Republicans want to give carte blanche to Israel. They're going mad at Biden for even pausing the shipments of 2000 lb bombs, with the House officially "rebuking" him recently. They're on tv arguing that the Gazan civilians are fair game because they elected and support Hamas. You think it's bad for the Palestinians now? Just wait till Trump wins and the GOP take back the Senate this autumn.
I know of Republicans who wouldn't care if every single resident of Gaza was killed
Their logic is that the Palestinians voted in Hamas, so they now need to live with the consequences
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2024, 10:30:57 AMTheir choice is him or Biden who also criticised the Court for daring to go after Netanyahu.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 21, 2024, 10:38:52 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 09:38:21 AMGenocide Joe now calling an international court "Outrageous". If Donald Trump said that we would all be aghast. Its clear there is zero difference between Biden and Trump, 2 cheeks on the same arse. He is right though, there is no equivalence between Hamas and Israel. One is an invader, armed to the teeth with the highest tech weapons imaginable holding millions of people in an open air prison and committing Genocide. The other is a resistance movement firing the equivalent of bows and arrows at their more powerful occupier. Definitely no equivalence.
Western standards laid bare for all to see:
When he received threats not to go after Israel,
@KarimKhanQC
reveals "a senior leader" told him the ICC "is built for Africa and for thugs like Putin", and not for the West and its allies.
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 19, 2024, 01:44:05 PMIt was always going to come down to the game with Roscommon, for Cavan, and that hasn't and won't change, but the hope was we'd arrive there without too many scars and some confidence remaining. Who knows now what to expect from them on any given day? We're hideously inconsistent, often within games never mind from one to another, very mentally fragile and too content with moral victories, as shown by leaving a win behind us versus Tyrone. Any small degree of momentum from that is now in shreds. Mayo might not turn out to even be all that good, that's the scary thing, with Dublin waiting to annihilate us in second gear at Breffni - a game supporters will now understandably stay away from in droves? You try not to lapse into too much negativity and I know we've a new manager etc. but with all the gurus and back room geniuses we have, how in the hell did Cavan go out and turn in a dreadful display like that?