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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:40:41 PM »
A decent display bar one mistake. Sport can  be cruel

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:19:14 PM »
Criminal by Doherty,  no excuses for that

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 18, 2019, 08:45:36 PM »
I think the performance is being over hyped so far by studio. Ireland not committing to attack when they have the ball and all their possession is at the edge of their own box. Midfield trio offering nothing only backwards passing.

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General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: November 18, 2019, 06:58:09 PM »
This information is not new for anyone in the local area. And was alluded to by myself and others previously. Might not fit everyoneís agenda and people will likely believe their own bias regardless. Myself included.
But itís not straightforward either.

Go back many pages and I told ye something similar.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 15, 2019, 05:39:25 PM »
Some impressive footballers on that team although against very poor opponents. Robbie Brady looked like the weak linked, amazing how far his star has fallen.

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General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: November 13, 2019, 11:24:54 PM »


The bottom line is I personally wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of a Sunday World journalists mouth. There is a truth out there and there are no doubt bits of the truth in what we are hearing but these "journalists" have to make it sound like they have some inside track and know the whole truth and although they'd love to tell us all they simply cant for legal reasons.

Just to pick out a couple of your points without making the thread excessively long.

Its long known yet the attacks have been going on for 5/6 years and no one has been arrested and the man that it is well known to be orchestrating is living his normal life south of the border in Cavan.

Knowing something and then printing it is different from having sufficient evidence to prosecute.


I was wondering how long it would take the media to come out with this one, he worked for the Gardai but not the PSNI as the CIRA wouldnt like that but they'd be ok with the Gardai. Such a load of bollix. Did she really say something that stupid.

She actually said the opposite. She was refuting the rumour he was working for the Gardai.

Yes, thats been known for weeks in Cavan anyway. Bought in Mullahoran I believe. Yet I dont think bleach buying is a crime yet.
No-one is saying it is a crime but if the Gardai know one of the thugs bought bleach within a certain area and time-frame and they have vidoe of a known accomplice of Cyril doing just that then it is circumstantial eviddence to point them in the correct direction.


How would she know either way
Perhaps an educated guess. Based on the fact the Gardai have been unable to charge him for lack of evidence it would suggest he doesnt leave much incriminating information written down anywhere
Cheers Leo. The last one she didnít claim to know. It was her guess because she doesnít think McGuinness was much of a man for laptops!

A lot of her information comes from the Gardai I believe.

Interesting that itchy thinks that someone with dissident links seen on cctv buying bleach around the time and place of the Lunney torture isnít anything to worry about! Buying bleach may not be a crime, but it depends what you do with it!!


Another bluffer talking shite . Just point out where I said that.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 13, 2019, 09:58:13 PM »
I get that, though if someone asked me I wouldnít say to them, I have got one on now so why ask me to wear one?

Iíd just say no thanks, I think some people are hyping up this fear of not wearing a poppy will decide your future, if you challenge it then they have a problem.

So if its that simple, why do you think there isn't say at least 20% of people on TV not wearing them. Could it be fear they will not be asked onto TV again, Fear they will get abuse on social media, fear their kids will be targeted at school. Its Bullying, plain and simple.


You are unbelievably naive if you think that it is as simple as saying No. There are repercussions to saying No - ask James McClean.

Naive? No, but I understand that people will be asked to wear a poppy, that choice is then down to the individual,  if he/she is against it  then they shouldnít wear it, so by your math (god only knows where you you dug up that stat) 20 people of every 100 people on TV during October November are wearing it against their wishes?  Is there a link to that?

I pulled 20% out of the sky, it could be 30%. It could be 5%. However what is clear is that there is 0% refusing to wear them or damn close to it. So some people are clearly uncomfortable to say no. That my friend is bullying.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 13, 2019, 04:59:52 PM »
I get that, though if someone asked me I wouldnít say to them, I have got one on now so why ask me to wear one?

Iíd just say no thanks, I think some people are hyping up this fear of not wearing a poppy will decide your future, if you challenge it then they have a problem.

So if its that simple, why do you think there isn't say at least 20% of people on TV not wearing them. Could it be fear they will not be asked onto TV again, Fear they will get abuse on social media, fear their kids will be targeted at school. Its Bullying, plain and simple.


You are unbelievably naive if you think that it is as simple as saying No. There are repercussions to saying No - ask James McClean.

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General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: November 13, 2019, 04:56:33 PM »


The bottom line is I personally wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of a Sunday World journalists mouth. There is a truth out there and there are no doubt bits of the truth in what we are hearing but these "journalists" have to make it sound like they have some inside track and know the whole truth and although they'd love to tell us all they simply cant for legal reasons.

Just to pick out a couple of your points without making the thread excessively long.

Its long known yet the attacks have been going on for 5/6 years and no one has been arrested and the man that it is well known to be orchestrating is living his normal life south of the border in Cavan.

Knowing something and then printing it is different from having sufficient evidence to prosecute.


I was wondering how long it would take the media to come out with this one, he worked for the Gardai but not the PSNI as the CIRA wouldnt like that but they'd be ok with the Gardai. Such a load of bollix. Did she really say something that stupid.

She actually said the opposite. She was refuting the rumour he was working for the Gardai.

Yes, thats been known for weeks in Cavan anyway. Bought in Mullahoran I believe. Yet I dont think bleach buying is a crime yet.
No-one is saying it is a crime but if the Gardai know one of the thugs bought bleach within a certain area and time-frame and they have vidoe of a known accomplice of Cyril doing just that then it is circumstantial eviddence to point them in the correct direction.


How would she know either way
Perhaps an educated guess. Based on the fact the Gardai have been unable to charge him for lack of evidence it would suggest he doesnt leave much incriminating information written down anywhere

An educated guess I am ok with, as long as it is called out as being an educated guess and not being called out as being fact creating the illusion that this journalist has been going around the Cavan/Fermanagh border undercover for 6 years. All any of us can do is an educated guess.

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General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: November 13, 2019, 01:30:22 PM »
Nicola Tallant of the Sunday World was on Dunphy's podcast (she's often on talking about the Kinahans and is a great listen).

Some of the main points she made on the podcast were:

-It's been long known that Cyril McGuinness / Dublin Jimmy was the orchestrator of the attacks on "Quinn" businesses

Its long known yet the attacks have been going on for 5/6 years and no one has been arrested and the man that it is well known to be orchestrating is living his normal life south of the border in Cavan.

-He was in jail in Siberia for a time and claims he had to eat rats to survive. He lost most of his teeth during his incarceration!

cool story dude

-He was the person called "Boss" when the Lunney attackers made a phonecall during the attack

The great thing about talking about a dead man is that you cannot libel him. How could she possibly know that?

-There are rumours that he was tout for either the gardai or psni (as a possible explanation as to why it took so long for him to be lifted). She said she knows for a fact he wasn't a tout for the gardai and she said it would be highly highly unlikely he worked for the psni. He was provo/dissident to the core and wouldn't have jeopardised that.

I was wondering how long it would take the media to come out with this one, he worked for the Gardai but not the PSNI as the CIRA wouldnt like that but they'd be ok with the Gardai. Such a load of bollix. Did she really say something that stupid.

-She has had it substantiated that the son of the paymaster recently admonished McGuinness in a pub that he wasn't doing enough "what are we paying you for?"

Does anyone else think that the secretive paymaster had his son walk into a pub and "admonish" this dangerous thug in public. I dont know, this sounds like more crap to me.

-The police have CCTV of a suspect in the Lunney attack buying bleach.

Yes, thats been known for weeks in Cavan anyway. Bought in Mullahoran I believe. Yet I dont think bleach buying is a crime yet.

-A big part of the reason for the multiple raids, including the Derby raid, was to collect phones so they can triangulate movements

This might be true lol

-She doubts there's much on any laptop recovered in Derby     

How would she know either way


The bottom line is I personally wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of a Sunday World journalists mouth. There is a truth out there and there are no doubt bits of the truth in what we are hearing but these "journalists" have to make it sound like they have some inside track and know the whole truth and although they'd love to tell us all they simply cant for legal reasons.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 13, 2019, 07:23:33 AM »
Is there anyone on this forum forced to wear a poppy?


McClean is doing it for his reasons, principled. his growing up during the troubles or his familyís experiences of the troubles has shaped his views, his stance is a simple one. He continues to play and the thugs/fans at these games are a minority


I donít or would never wear one, same as any other remembrance flower.

This is a forum millrown. Just because I am not forced to wear a poppy doesn't mean I cannot point out the rank hypocrisy of poppy fascism and the obvious bullying behaviour that goes on in the uk.

Obvious bullying? Do you honestly think Roy Keane (who is, Iíd imagined financially secure) being bullied? Wise up, if he has (or many others) any issues with wearing a poppy I think he wouldnít wear one.

Youíre possibly getting annoyed that some people actually want to wear one for the reasons itís actually for!

Not annoyed at all but use your brain, how many celebrities or soccer players on tv will make the call to not wear one, knowing the abuse they will bring on themselves and their families? It's the definition of bullying.

What is the reason it's actually for?

The poppy is a charity. As for the likes of Keane, heís well strong enough to take abuse, he was tortured after walking out on Ireland and abuse from mangers roles. Wearing a poppy or not wearing a poppy wouldnít faze him tbh.

To answer your question on the players or celebrities, I donít know and frankly neither do you

I may not know the answer but I know the answer is greater than zero. Frankly I cannot believe anyone does not see this for what it is, bullying. Also for the person who says that Roy keane is well able for abuse etc etc. Would you think that if a colleague at work was being bullied, if a child was being bullied. This poppy fascism is disgusting carry on which is only mildly alleviated by the pure stupidity of sine the people pushing it.

I suggest you read Robert Fisks great article on why he or his father (a war vetersn) didn't wear one if you think its simply a charity

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 12, 2019, 11:06:42 PM »
Is there anyone on this forum forced to wear a poppy?


McClean is doing it for his reasons, principled. his growing up during the troubles or his familyís experiences of the troubles has shaped his views, his stance is a simple one. He continues to play and the thugs/fans at these games are a minority


I donít or would never wear one, same as any other remembrance flower.

This is a forum millrown. Just because I am not forced to wear a poppy doesn't mean I cannot point out the rank hypocrisy of poppy fascism and the obvious bullying behaviour that goes on in the uk.

Obvious bullying? Do you honestly think Roy Keane (who is, Iíd imagined financially secure) being bullied? Wise up, if he has (or many others) any issues with wearing a poppy I think he wouldnít wear one.

Youíre possibly getting annoyed that some people actually want to wear one for the reasons itís actually for!

Not annoyed at all but use your brain, how many celebrities or soccer players on tv will make the call to not wear one, knowing the abuse they will bring on themselves and their families? It's the definition of bullying.

What is the reason it's actually for?

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 12, 2019, 10:45:26 PM »
Is there anyone on this forum forced to wear a poppy?


McClean is doing it for his reasons, principled. his growing up during the troubles or his familyís experiences of the troubles has shaped his views, his stance is a simple one. He continues to play and the thugs/fans at these games are a minority


I donít or would never wear one, same as any other remembrance flower.

This is a forum millrown. Just because I am not forced to wear a poppy doesn't mean I cannot point out the rank hypocrisy of poppy fascism and the obvious bullying behaviour that goes on in the uk.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 12, 2019, 06:13:56 PM »
Youíre one of a number of posters on this Board that Iíve previously had run ins with and have personally tried to get to like but I have to admit defeat

Dougal this board is not about conforming with others and sharing and agreeing with their views all the time, and its not about gaining new friends, I've enough friends to disagree with but not fall out with.

I have never disliked anyone on here as I (bar a couple) don't know anyone here personally, a lot of people come on here for a wind up a chat or share thoughts on various things, some of which is very useful. I'd suspect a lot of posters on here wouldn't be so sharing of their thoughts in real life to their work colleagues, I'm at an age were I can take it or leave it..

The poopy like flegs seem to get up peoples goats a lot easier than other subjects I find more important, as for wanting things to go back to the 60's I have no idea where you are getting that from in any of my posts. But yes women shouldn't be allowed to vote or work in a pub/bookies

I dont think this is anything to do with individual decisions people take regarding the wearing of a poppy. Its about a bullying culture to wear one, its about one up man-ship - my poppy is bigger than yours, its about a sort of british nationalism. It certainly seems to be f**k all to do with actually remembering anything or anyone. Some of what you see is damn right so ridiculous you can only laugh - poppy cakes, poppy haircuts, poppys on dogs, foreign footballers forced to wear poppys on their jerseys.

Who is bullied into wearing a poppy? If someone wants to wear a poppy they'll do it, if they don't then they shouldn't, I work with the public every day I do not bat an eyelid at a poppy on their coat, nor do I question their motives, same at Easter time or St Patricks day, I've more to worry about in life than someone wearing a flower on their coat or what it stands for, there are far more terrible things going on, like the price of butter and fruit!

The brits will always ram it down your throat, have you been affected by over use of the poppy?

Every professional soccer player in the uk. Everyone who goes onto uk TV.  Thats for a start.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 12, 2019, 05:05:14 PM »
Youíre one of a number of posters on this Board that Iíve previously had run ins with and have personally tried to get to like but I have to admit defeat

Dougal this board is not about conforming with others and sharing and agreeing with their views all the time, and its not about gaining new friends, I've enough friends to disagree with but not fall out with.

I have never disliked anyone on here as I (bar a couple) don't know anyone here personally, a lot of people come on here for a wind up a chat or share thoughts on various things, some of which is very useful. I'd suspect a lot of posters on here wouldn't be so sharing of their thoughts in real life to their work colleagues, I'm at an age were I can take it or leave it..

The poopy like flegs seem to get up peoples goats a lot easier than other subjects I find more important, as for wanting things to go back to the 60's I have no idea where you are getting that from in any of my posts. But yes women shouldn't be allowed to vote or work in a pub/bookies

I dont think this is anything to do with individual decisions people take regarding the wearing of a poppy. Its about a bullying culture to wear one, its about one up man-ship - my poppy is bigger than yours, its about a sort of british nationalism. It certainly seems to be f**k all to do with actually remembering anything or anyone. Some of what you see is damn right so ridiculous you can only laugh - poppy cakes, poppy haircuts, poppys on dogs, foreign footballers forced to wear poppys on their jerseys.

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