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#1
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 11:51:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2024, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 08:17:33 AMSince some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).





You misread my post. Regime 1 = Israel, Regime 2 = Russia.
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Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 08:17:33 AMSince some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.
#3
Shit game but Idah made an impact and its job done
#4
Celtic look out of ideas
#5
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 25, 2024, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 25, 2024, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2024, 11:12:42 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/sqrLfRz8R6n3CAs2/
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 25, 2024, 07:52:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile

I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out

Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.

Continuing with the trend of creating parallels between current events and events that occurred during the course of Irish History (eg October 7th/Easter Rising) if the Bean Garda in the video clip was a female Black and Tan or B Special would the abuse have been justified?

Female black and Tan 😆 Are you saying wum or is it really possible for a human to be this thick
#6
Celtic the better team but creating nothing in final 3rd despite having lots of possession in that area
#7
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 06:31:39 PM6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

The 7 comes before the 10.

Rest of your post is horseshit
#8
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 24, 2024, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 02:52:20 PMHere is a times if Israel article on Hamas offering long term ceasefire from 2015.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-offers-long-term-ceasefire-in-exchange-for-end-of-blockade/amp/

We know Hamas offered to release all non combatant hostages in early October but Israel rejected it as it included not entering Gaza.

Did you bother reading any of the comments

One example:

"Hamas wants a seaport and airport to receive weapons from Iran and other states and terrorist organizartions. Only a new Gaza with a democratic regime where the people are free can be trusted. Hamas cannot."

So that is the only reason a country would want an airport/seaport. Ok.

Yes, that is the considered Fox News position.
#9
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/international-court-of-justice-orders-israel-to-stop-military-assault-on-gazas-rafah/a1901650259.html

ICJ orders Israel to stop assault on Rafah. They will ignore. Will Genocide Joe declare this also as "outrageous".

What it will do is surely hasten the other countries in Europe to follow Ireland/Norway/Spains lead to recognise the Palestinian state. Finally these monsters are being isolated and will be treated as the rogue pariah state that they are.
#10
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 24, 2024, 01:19:54 PMlocal media were invited to film a reprimand of the Irish ambassador.

Israeli TV stations showed footage of the ambassador and counterparts being admonished yesterday.

Why have we still an ambassador in that shit hole. He should be brought home. The Israeli embassy in Dublin should be re-purposed to house Palestinian refugees. We should have no ties with a racist, fascist, evil country like Israel.
#11
Quote from: whitey on May 24, 2024, 01:08:52 AMhttps://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-father-and-son-terrorists-admit-to-murder-and-rape-of-israeli-women-on-oct-7

Lovely individuals-very "heroic"

In his own words

"He shamelessly described raping a crying woman at gunpoint and leaving her without knowing her fate. Abdallah's confession revealed a more harrowing truth: his father killed the woman after multiple rapes by the terrorists, including himself and his cousin"

Where in the video do you hear his own words? You just believe this story, no questions asked?
#12
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 08:12:15 PMMilltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

You can tell she really worries about the lives of Palestinians.
#13
Quote from: greatpoint on May 23, 2024, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 23, 2024, 02:56:46 PM
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Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2024, 01:20:34 PM
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Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 12:03:44 PMI've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.


So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.


I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

Hamas are using their own civilians as human shields

They are as just much to blame for civilian deaths as the Israelis

So it's nothing to do with the big fĂșcking bombs the IDF are dropping on built up areas and even refugee camps?

Are Hamas also to blame for the Palestinians being killed on the West Bank?

Sweet Jesus!



So if the Hamas operatives who perpetrated the atrocities on 10/07 are hiding out in a refugee camp are they not responsible for the inevitable bombardment that's sure to follow?

Yeh they are hiding in refugee camps, under hospitals and in churches. So if those are blown up then its at least partially Hamas's fault right - like no where should be safe. Tell me, if a Hamas militant is being treated in hospital, is it his fault if the hospital is bombed, are casualties on both sides entitled to medical treatment? Would you be ok with the Brits bombing the Falls road with hi-tech weapons from the sky during the troubles too. You can spot the man who listens to Fox news all day a mile away.

These equivalences are mad. Which event during the Troubles would you say compares to what happened on October 7th?

It's true, I can't think of any event in the troubles where the British machined gunned their own civilians in such numbers in order to kill ira volunteers. Mad alright.
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Quote from: whitey on May 23, 2024, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2024, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 23, 2024, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2024, 01:20:34 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2024, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2024, 12:14:34 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2024, 12:08:18 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 23, 2024, 12:03:44 PMI've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.


So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.


I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

Hamas are using their own civilians as human shields

They are as just much to blame for civilian deaths as the Israelis

So it's nothing to do with the big fĂșcking bombs the IDF are dropping on built up areas and even refugee camps?

Are Hamas also to blame for the Palestinians being killed on the West Bank?

Sweet Jesus!



So if the Hamas operatives who perpetrated the atrocities on 10/07 are hiding out in a refugee camp are they not responsible for the inevitable bombardment that's sure to follow?

Yeh they are hiding in refugee camps, under hospitals and in churches. So if those are blown up then its at least partially Hamas's fault right - like no where should be safe. Tell me, if a Hamas militant is being treated in hospital, is it his fault if the hospital is bombed, are casualties on both sides entitled to medical treatment? Would you be ok with the Brits bombing the Falls road with hi-tech weapons from the sky during the troubles too. You can spot the man who listens to Fox news all day a mile away.
#15
Or Biden could be a man, explain the slaughter and why America won't stand for it. Appeal to moderate sensible people. The truth is he's in the pocket of the same people as Trump. See 2 white sheep analogy above.

If I were in your shoes I'd get my family out of that shithole.

And I'm not shouting.