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Some good if belated news

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-to-officially-recognise-state-of-palestine/a128328868.html

[No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democrac]

How do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.

Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.

Once they started he had to take a side

Why does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.

Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.

After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.

As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.

I assume you live in US? You'd actually know just by reading your post.

Biden loves a good war, if you listened to his bullshit speech in Ballina about the Mayo man who joined the yank army it'd make you sick. No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democracy. Sorry.

How about telling me what you disagree with instead of vacuous nonsense like that last sentence?

And yeah, I do live in the US and despite the American consensus on Israel, for which I share your disdain, there is a huge difference between them on policy (we'll not get into Trump's personal pathologies).

If there are two sheep in a field and all you hear all day is that one sheep is better than the other, you'll probably start believing it. You might even join in speaking on behalf of that sheep. Everyone else just sees two sheep in a field, eating the same grass and owned by the same Farmer.

You sound like someone who just likes to argue just for the sake of it.

I've already said, multiple times, that Biden has to follow the long-standing US broad consensus on Israel.

But believe it or not, the US, like most countries, has a multitude of other problems and policy areas outside of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

If you're saying there's no difference between Biden and Trump, or the Dems and GOP in general, on anything, then you haven't got a clue.

Biden has to support Israeli genocide because..... He has to. That's brilliant. Thanks for explaining the complex American political landscape.

I think you support democrats as they are "your team" and as a result you are making excuses for a Genocide supporting piece of shit.

There is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.

I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.

Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.

Maybe they have, they've certainly said Hamas has a case to answer on it. But I've not seen any evidence from reliable sources and in fact some of the initial witnesses stating this were shown to be very unreliable. I would have thought it surely would've been out there for all to see if evidence was available. A bit like the weapons and tunnels in hospitals, none of it ever surfaced.

[No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democrac]

How do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.

Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.

Once they started he had to take a side

Why does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.

Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.

After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.

As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.

I assume you live in US? You'd actually know just by reading your post.

Biden loves a good war, if you listened to his bullshit speech in Ballina about the Mayo man who joined the yank army it'd make you sick. No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democracy. Sorry.

How about telling me what you disagree with instead of vacuous nonsense like that last sentence?

And yeah, I do live in the US and despite the American consensus on Israel, for which I share your disdain, there is a huge difference between them on policy (we'll not get into Trump's personal pathologies).

If there are two sheep in a field and all you hear all day is that one sheep is better than the other, you'll probably start believing it. You might even join in speaking on behalf of that sheep. Everyone else just sees two sheep in a field, eating the same grass and owned by the same Farmer.

How do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.

Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.

Once they started he had to take a side

Why does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.

Well yeah, but the current "new conflict" which Itchy accuses Biden of dragging the world into, began then. Had Hamas not did what they did that day, things would be proceeding as before with Israel maintaining the stranglehold on Gaza and working away at the theft of land in the West Bank.

After October 7, Biden had no choice but to support Israel. It's simply the only sustainable position for a mainstream politician in the US. The only debate is the lengths Israel is allowed to go. The Dems have limits, the GOP doesn't.

As for the other "new conflict", Biden is absolutely correct to support Zelensky and the Ukrainians. But if you're concerned about that, you won't have long to worry; it looks fairly likely Trump is going to win, and then the Ukraine will be cut loose to face their fate with presumably only the EU for support.

I assume you live in US? You'd actually know just by reading your post.

Biden loves a good war, if you listened to his bullshit speech in Ballina about the Mayo man who joined the yank army it'd make you sick. No difference worth talking about between him and Trump and America isn't a democracy. Sorry.

How do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.

Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.

Once they started he had to take a side

Utter bollocks.

There is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.

How do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.

It's degree lads. The Republicans want to give carte blanche to Israel. They're going mad at Biden for even pausing the shipments of 2000 lb bombs, with the House officially "rebuking" him recently. They're on tv arguing that the Gazan civilians are fair game because they elected and support Hamas. You think it's bad for the Palestinians now? Just wait till Trump wins and the GOP take back the Senate this autumn.

I know of Republicans who wouldn't care if every single resident of Gaza was killed

Their logic is that the Palestinians voted in Hamas, so they now need to live with the consequences

You don't think their are democrats that think that too?

Their choice is him or Biden who also criticised the Court for daring to go after Netanyahu.

I was being sarcastic, Trump didnt say that it was Biden. But if you werent told would you know the difference?

Genocide Joe now calling an international court "Outrageous". If Donald Trump said that we would all be aghast. Its clear there is zero difference between Biden and Trump, 2 cheeks on the same arse. He is right though, there is no equivalence between Hamas and Israel. One is an invader, armed to the teeth with the highest tech weapons imaginable holding millions of people in an open air prison and committing Genocide. The other is a resistance movement firing the equivalent of bows and arrows at their more powerful occupier. Definitely no equivalence.

Western standards laid bare for all to see:



When he received threats not to go after Israel,
@KarimKhanQC
 reveals "a senior leader" told him the ICC "is built for Africa and for thugs like Putin", and not for the West and its allies.

He should be careful or he might end up in a helicopter or car crash.

Did you all hear that Donald Trump called the International Criminal Court prosecutor as "Outrageous". The Charges against Israel could be "causing extermination, causing starvation as a method of war, including the denial of humanitarian relief supplies, deliberately targeting civilians in conflict" according to the chief prosecutor.


Another shocking attack by Trump on law and order. This man cannot be allowed be president of America, the land of the free.

Genocide Joe now calling an international court "Outrageous". If Donald Trump said that we would all be aghast. Its clear there is zero difference between Biden and Trump, 2 cheeks on the same arse. He is right though, there is no equivalence between Hamas and Israel. One is an invader, armed to the teeth with the highest tech weapons imaginable holding millions of people in an open air prison and committing Genocide. The other is a resistance movement firing the equivalent of bows and arrows at their more powerful occupier. Definitely no equivalence.

It was always going to come down to the game with Roscommon, for Cavan, and that hasn't and won't change, but the hope was we'd arrive there without too many scars and some confidence remaining. Who knows now what to expect from them on any given day? We're hideously inconsistent, often within games never mind from one to another, very mentally fragile and too content with moral victories, as shown by leaving a win behind us versus Tyrone. Any small degree of momentum from that is now in shreds. Mayo might not turn out to even be all that good, that's the scary thing, with Dublin waiting to annihilate us in second gear at Breffni - a game supporters will now understandably stay away from in droves? You try not to lapse into too much negativity and I know we've a new manager etc. but with all the gurus and back room geniuses we have, how in the hell did Cavan go out and turn in a dreadful display like that?

Cavan do not have scoring forwards. They had one in Paddy Lynch and he is gone now. The rest remaining are Div3 standard forwards. We then try to set up to run hard from deep but in the case of Mayo and get scrores from midfield and half back, that is where Mayos strengths also lie so we were never going to out run them in that department. I was expecting to be well beaten. Most disappointing for me was the poor show on our own kick outs, even with the wind. That was unforgivable.

Cavan can put it up to a lot of teams but Mayo, Dublin, Kerry - big physical athletic teams, we will not compete with them. Most worrying for us is the total lack of quality coming through at underage (if you go by our results). One win for our U20s this year v Antrim (who were dire) and 2 wins for our Minors against Antrim and Fermanagh. When the Cillian Clarkes, Padraig Faulkners, Gerry Smiths hand up their boots we will be back slumming it in Div 3.

Aaron Connolly let go by Hull. What is the story with that lad.