Ulster Final 2008 - Armagh vs Fermanagh

Started by wanderer, June 29, 2008, 11:22:11 PM

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Over the Bar

QuoteANyone else puliing their hair out with regard to heartys kick-outs, how many time did he bypass our mid field.

Is it not normal for a keeper to get the ball as far away from the goal-mouth as possible?

Goats Do Shave

Quote from: Over the Bar on July 28, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
QuoteANyone else puliing their hair out with regard to heartys kick-outs, how many time did he bypass our mid field.

Is it not normal for a keeper to get the ball as far away from the goal-mouth as possible?

I thought the kick outs were superb, it was upto the players to know how far he can kick it!

Travis T O Justice

Anyone hear on how Andy Mallon is? I heard 'Broken Arm', 'Metal Plates required', 'end of career' blah blah blah???

Can't afford to loose a corner back of his ability if we are starring down the barrel of Croke Park!!

"If it was easy any monkey could do it....go get me a monkey Barry".

BerfArmagh

Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 28, 2008, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on July 28, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
QuoteANyone else puliing their hair out with regard to heartys kick-outs, how many time did he bypass our mid field.

Is it not normal for a keeper to get the ball as far away from the goal-mouth as possible?

I thought the kick outs were superb, it was upto the players to know how far he can kick it!

No its not about kicking it as far as you can, its about securing possession

Goats Do Shave

Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 28, 2008, 11:56:56 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 28, 2008, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on July 28, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
QuoteANyone else puliing their hair out with regard to heartys kick-outs, how many time did he bypass our mid field.

Is it not normal for a keeper to get the ball as far away from the goal-mouth as possible?

I thought the kick outs were superb, it was upto the players to know how far he can kick it!

No its not about kicking it as far as you can, its about securing possession

I'd rather lose the ball in the oppositions half!

gander

#935
QuoteWhat do people think of Paul Kernan? Could start in place of Finnian Mo next day imo, although I was surprised that Donaghy didn't come on for Mallon

Thought he done rightly, didn't notice him much but his man didn't really figur.  Cant see him starting ahead of Moriarty, dont think he's done much wrong and I actually think he's been playing well.  Could be wrong but I think his man has been subbed in every championship match so far.  I was a bit surprised that donaghy didn't come on for mallon as well, he must be seen as a full back or half back.  Looks like McNulty's finished though.

thebandit

Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 28, 2008, 11:29:09 AM
ANyone else puliing their hair out with regard to heartys kick-outs, how many time did he bypass our mid field. Has he ever heard of a short kick out? I still think he is a liability

I thought that the midfield were positioned deeper that normal, so they were more at fault.

Hank Everlast

Quote from: Travis T O Justice on July 28, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
Anyone hear on how Andy Mallon is? I heard 'Broken Arm', 'Metal Plates required', 'end of career' blah blah blah???

Can't afford to loose a corner back of his ability if we are starring down the barrel of Croke Park!!



heard the same travis, plates required in the arm and the season will more than likely be over.

will be a massive loss..

Goats Do Shave

Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: Travis T O Justice on July 28, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
Anyone hear on how Andy Mallon is? I heard 'Broken Arm', 'Metal Plates required', 'end of career' blah blah blah???

Can't afford to loose a corner back of his ability if we are starring down the barrel of Croke Park!!



heard the same travis, plates required in the arm and the season will more than likely be over.

will be a massive loss..

That's horrible news! - Losing the best defensive corner back in the country is a major blow!

QuoteLooks like McNulty's finished though.

McDonnell seems to favour the more mobile players!
Maybe he is being kept in the squad, as it's cheaper than employing him!!?

mackers

That's bad news...........Andy will be a huge loss. I would have more confidence with Donaghy as the replacement, rather than P Kernan. Enda is well down the pecking order, his performance in Clones in the league appears to have been the last straw.
As others have said, Paul McGrane's performance was awesome yesterday, it's no mean feat to keep Marty McGrath quiet. Any criticism of McGrane and Toner after last week was unwarranted, but I like to see some of our players with a point to prove (McGrane, AK, C McKeever) as they seem to revel in that position.
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on July 28, 2008, 11:40:14 AM
Not a lot has been made of Ciaran O'Reilly missing for fermanagh, mainly because he was out all year injured. Certainly fermanagh could have done with his dead ball skills yesterday.

Armagh reminded me a bit of the Germany soccer team, not the best 15 in the country but disciplined and efficient.
Still have a few reservations about Armagh however. If McDonnell and Clarke were to have an off day or be very well marked (easier said than done) they will definitely struggle for scores. In the wide open spaces of Croker the full back line could be stretched too. If they do meet the Dub's down the line I think they would struggle to thwart the dublin attack and its movement IMO.
I would say that Clarke and McDonnell have rarely been marked so well as they were yesterday but both of them kept going to end and got their scores and others did step up, particularly B Mallon. We won yesterday without Clarke and McDonnell playing particularly well which is encouraging.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

Travis T O Justice

I can't stand these morons who make those sorts of comments -ie 'If McDonnell and Clarke had an off day' blah blah - if my Ma had a dick she'd be my Da - wise up!
"If it was easy any monkey could do it....go get me a monkey Barry".

T Fearon

A great win yeterday, and with the possible exception of the 2005 replay win over Tyrone, as sweet an Ulster Title as any. ;D

It truly is a privilege to have been around at the same time as Mc Grane, Mc Donnell etc, not forgetting those who have retired like Mc Geeney. It is also a travesty of justice that a lesser team like Tyrone has  captured two all Irelands in recent years while Armagh have only one. Te truthis that Armagh along with Kerry have been the two outstanding teams of the last decade.Hopefully this will be rectified this September.

Bumped into my old school pal Adrian Dunbar yesterday after the game. Modest as ever and gracious in defeat (two qualities that could never be applied to myself, I must admit ;D)

Over the Bar

#942
Your pain is palpable.   lol 

Posts like this make being a Tyrone fan all the more enjoyable! lol

bingobus

Great teams win the ultimate prize on a regular basis and Ulster titles for a team of Armaghs ambitions isn't the ultimate prize. The season starts now for Armagh and they, like every other team, will be judged in September.

screenexile

Quote from: T Fearon on July 28, 2008, 03:56:03 PM
A great win yeterday, and with the possible exception of the 2005 replay win over Tyrone, as sweet an Ulster Title as any. ;D

It truly is a privilege to have been around at the same time as Mc Grane, Mc Donnell etc, not forgetting those who have retired like Mc Geeney. It is also a travesty of justice that a lesser team like Tyrone has  captured two all Irelands in recent years while Armagh have only one. Te truthis that Armagh along with Kerry have been the two outstanding teams of the last decade.Hopefully this will be rectified this September.

Bumped into my old school pal Adrian Dunbar yesterday after the game. Modest as ever and gracious in defeat (two qualities that could never be applied to myself, I must admit ;D)

What are you basing that on? A couple of Ulster's? Armagh are the great choker's of the decade my friend and shouldn't be uttered in the same breath as Kerry! (And yes I am well aware that Derry were the main bottlers for 10 years before Armagh took over from them)