Ulster Final 2008 - Armagh vs Fermanagh

[corn02]

Ferm you are arguing with a WUM.

[FermGael]

I know corn but i am bored

[Onion Bag]

IMHO Malachy should make a few changes to Fermanagh's starting line up;

1. take out P Sherry and replace with a hard hitting defender, shadowing Stevie Mc won't suffice as he'll punish Fermanagh again if given any opportunity.

Sherry has been one of our most consistent performances this year.  Catch a grip.

where did you get that line up from??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7524497.stm

I am from south Fermanagh and a big admirer of Sherry but he is not physical enough for McDonnell...

The piece says there is specualtion over Shane Lyons and Shaun Doherty. This could and possibly should be in place of the two Roslea men.

Why would P Sherry lose his place??  He was not marking McDonnell the last day until the last 20 when he did all right on him then.
He marked  Kernan for most of the match and he was kept very quiet.

Listen Ferm he didnt do alright on him, the ball didnt come down that end of the field, mc donnell was on fire all day,

[sammymaguire]

Ferm you are arguing with a WUM.

at least I am not a BUM.  

FermGael, I was in the Pat McGrane on Sunday towards the Fermamagh goals and watched Sherry stand off McDonnell in the 2nd half when he was picking off points for fun, if he had have had more of the ball he would have done more damage its that simple. Who marks McDonnell then to keep him quieter?? I think it needs to be a tough tackler who stands on his toes when the ball is nowehere near him and really gets on his case.

[corn02]

Ferm you are arguing with a WUM.

at least I am not a BUM.  

BOOM BOOM!

[FermGael]

Ferm you are arguing with a WUM.

at least I am not a BUM. 

FermGael, I was in the Pat McGrane on Sunday towards the Fermamagh goals and watched Sherry stand off McDonnell in the 2nd half when he was picking off points for fun, if he had have had more of the ball he would have done more damage its that simple. Who marks McDonnell then to keep him quieter?? I think it needs to be a tough tackler who stands on his toes when the ball is nowehere near him and really gets on his case.

Well then who would you have replace him??

IMHO Malachy should make a few changes to Fermanagh's starting line up;

1. take out P Sherry and replace with a hard hitting defender, shadowing Stevie Mc won't suffice as he'll punish Fermanagh again if given any opportunity.

Sherry has been one of our most consistent performances this year.  Catch a grip.

where did you get that line up from??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7524497.stm

I am from south Fermanagh and a big admirer of Sherry but he is not physical enough for McDonnell...

The piece says there is specualtion over Shane Lyons and Shaun Doherty. This could and possibly should be in place of the two Roslea men.

Why would P Sherry lose his place??  He was not marking McDonnell the last day until the last 20 when he did all right on him then.
He marked  Kernan for most of the match and he was kept very quiet.

Listen Ferm he didnt do alright on him, the ball didnt come down that end of the field, mc donnell was on fire all day,

If a defender keeps his man scoreless, then its job done as far as i am concerned

[scud]

FermGael, I was in the Pat McGrane on Sunday towards the Fermamagh goals and watched Sherry stand off McDonnell in the 2nd half when he was picking off points for fun, if he had have had more of the ball he would have done more damage its that simple. Who marks McDonnell then to keep him quieter?? I think it needs to be a tough tackler who stands on his toes when the ball is nowehere near him and really gets on his case.
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Quit with this drivel please. Shane Goan marked McDonnell for the most party last sunday, did you turn up with 20mins to go? Sherry deserves his place for his performance on Kernan

[sammymaguire]

boll0x scud... McDonnell scored 2 points in the 46th and 55th mins when Sherry was on him and he didn't even get a chance to block him on either... leave him on S Kernan then but he can't handle McDonnell, thats all I am saying.

[Tommy Tibbs]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2008/0725/page1217465.html?gaa

For a so called "expert" his reasons for coming to his verdict is severly questionable. Surely he is not giving Fermanagh enough credit for their previous victories but in saying that he may well be correct in predicting the side who eventually truimphs. Realistically if any team are going to run out of legs going by last week's game its likely to be the Orchard men.

[Bainisteoir]

I would say that I'm a betting man but i wouldn't touch this game to be honest even though I'm  an Armagh man. If i was too make a prediction i would say Armagh but only just. To be fair to Fermanagh theres no doubt they deserve another crack at it without a doubt and could have won it the last day, but the original thought i had in the car home from Clones was that essentially Armagh went too far ahead (8 points... i wasn't complaining at the time  ) and at the end of the day that last 20 Min's from fermanagh was always going to come with Armagh so far in front. Being 8 points down you have no option but to throw caution to the wind-which is exactly what they did and reaped the rewards. But my own opinion is that if Armagh were maybe 2 or 3 points in front instead of 8, they would have closed the game out because fermangh would have still been cautious of going for broke.

I have heard alot of people say if fermanagh can play the 65-70 Min's like the 2nd half last week, they will win. Personally i dont buy into this argument, fermanagh steamrolled armagh during that 20-25 minute period and Armagh had no answer. This was due to a few reasons i think, armagh who were more or less cruising for the 50 odd minutes upto this point believing they had done enough and they took their foot off the pedal as much as it was fermanagh playing high octane fast football, going for broke with nothing in the world to lose.

For sunday i think Armagh will have learned alot-they usually do based on replays over the past decade. Although the team seemed disappointed, the message i think peter mc donnell will be drilling into them is that you didn't perform at all in the 2nd half and fermanagh threw everything at you yet your still in the final.

Armagh by 2...Just

[GrandMasterFlash]

McCluckskey has proved in the past that he de man to do a job on Stevie From Killeavy. Bit of a risk bringing him back to do it however..

[scud]

McCluckskey has proved in the past that he de man to do a job on Stevie From Killeavy. Bit of a risk bringing him back to do it however..

He did well on him in 04 but i think stevie still scored 4 points, albeit mostly at the start of the game when armagh were dominant. I'd be for goan getting another chance sunday. Need clucker out the field

[sammymaguire]

I'm with you on that scud, McCluskey was very impressive in the 2nd half last week, acting as playmker for the forwards to feed off.

[D4S]

Is nobody elsae surprised that McBarron is starting ahead of McCabe?  I thought he did enough last week to get another start, he saw plenty of ball in the first half!  Perhaps O'Rourke is thinking they also need to plan for the following game where McCabe might not be there, but you have to put out your best 15 in an ulster final.  O'Rourke hasn't got too much wrong yet this year so who am I to question him, hope McBarron proves me wrong and scores 3-10!  Got my ticket for sunday so Ill be back there again hopefully an exciting match like last weeks second half!

[sammymaguire]

Fermanagh tried Mark Murphy in full forward, then James Sherry in the 1st half with little or no joy whatsoever. O'Rourke seems to favour this style as he had McBarron playing there against Monaghan and Derry, he then threw in Barry Owens in that position in the 2nd half so he obviously wants the option of nippy corner forwards feeding off the breaking ball in the full forward line which could prove devastating if goals came off the back of this tactic (although Mark Little tends to roam, Eamon Maguire is dangerous on the inside)