Things that make you go What the F**k?

[Tony Baloney]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

Unfortunate typo.

[J70]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

1. I wasn't aware the Irish state was removing religion from schools. If so, it's about time.
2. Tolerance and inclusiveness is not (or at least should not) be either a religious issue or controversial.
3. If we are going to require schools to provide education relating to sex and relationships, then why should only the needs of heterosexual people be addressed?
4. You are doing your kids no favours whatsoever if you are teaching them that homosexuality and transexuality are "abnormal" and to be feared or condemned. And that's without even getting into the real victims of that kind of bigotry, which could even end up being your own children.

[gallsman]

Iceman. Paging Iceman.

[Franko]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

To use that first sentence, then follow it up by berating the State for removing religion from schools shows an unbelievable lack of self-awareness.

[el_cuervo_fc]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

The world is moving is a weird direction

[MoChara]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

The world is moving is a weird direction

They've pulled a headline out of the fact, people with female genitalia have periods whether they identify as a boy or not.

[el_cuervo_fc]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

The world is moving is a weird direction

They've pulled a headline out of the fact, people with female genitalia have periods whether they identify as a boy or not.

Is this not the same school where 76 children have identified themselves as transgender?  There seems to be an awful pandering to what I would think is a fad in this school.  76 would be a bit above average would it not?

[Square Ball]

BBC News: Gatwick Airport: Drone sightings cause delays
BBC News - Gatwick Airport: Drone sightings cause delays
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754

Can they not just shoot the drone?

[armaghniac]

BBC News: Gatwick Airport: Drone sightings cause delays
BBC News - Gatwick Airport: Drone sightings cause delays
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754

Can they not just shoot the drone?

What they need are hunter drones.

[Insane Bolt]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/597-homeless-people-died-last-year-new-statistics-show/ar-BBRdeGX?li=BBoPWjQ

Have we as a society become apathetic to this?

[Dolph1]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

1. I wasn't aware the Irish state was removing religion from schools. If so, it's about time.
2. Tolerance and inclusiveness is not (or at least should not) be either a religious issue or controversial.
3. If we are going to require schools to provide education relating to sex and relationships, then why should only the needs of heterosexual people be addressed?
4. You are doing your kids no favours whatsoever if you are teaching them that homosexuality and transexuality are "abnormal" and to be feared or condemned. And that's without even getting into the real victims of that kind of bigotry, which could even end up being your own children.

Funny how bigoty and intolerance spews from the same people who are now trying to force abnormal sex education on impressionable kids. It's mostly the same lot who petitioned removing first holy communion.
If they want to run such classes do it outside school and get permission from parents first.

[Dolph1]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

Unfortunate typo.

Typo. yes.

[gallsman]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

Unfortunate typo.

Typo. yes.

Congratulations, you stole a Chris Morris joke. You must be very proud.

[Franko]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

1. I wasn't aware the Irish state was removing religion from schools. If so, it's about time.
2. Tolerance and inclusiveness is not (or at least should not) be either a religious issue or controversial.
3. If we are going to require schools to provide education relating to sex and relationships, then why should only the needs of heterosexual people be addressed?
4. You are doing your kids no favours whatsoever if you are teaching them that homosexuality and transexuality are "abnormal" and to be feared or condemned. And that's without even getting into the real victims of that kind of bigotry, which could even end up being your own children.

Funny how bigoty and intolerance spews from the same people who are now trying to force abnormal sex education on impressionable kids. It's mostly the same lot who petitioned removing first holy communion.
If they want to run such classes do it outside school and get permission from parents first.

A huge proportion of the country would contend that all these statements apply to your beloved religious indoctrination classes.

[J70]

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/overhaul-of-schools-sex-education-programme-is-planned-37636226.html

Now trying to force kids to believe that this is normal. I'd advise any parent to withdraw their child when they teach these classes.

Yes, I can see how this would be controversial... for those who want to raise their kids to perpetuate bigotry and intolerance.

If that's the way you want to live your life then that's fine. Keep it at your own house.
For the state force the removal of religion from schools and replace with PC nonce sense is very hypocritical.

1. I wasn't aware the Irish state was removing religion from schools. If so, it's about time.
2. Tolerance and inclusiveness is not (or at least should not) be either a religious issue or controversial.
3. If we are going to require schools to provide education relating to sex and relationships, then why should only the needs of heterosexual people be addressed?
4. You are doing your kids no favours whatsoever if you are teaching them that homosexuality and transexuality are "abnormal" and to be feared or condemned. And that's without even getting into the real victims of that kind of bigotry, which could even end up being your own children.

Funny how bigoty and intolerance spews from the same people who are now trying to force abnormal sex education on impressionable kids. It's mostly the same lot who petitioned removing first holy communion.
If they want to run such classes do it outside school and get permission from parents first.

So inclusion and tolerance are really bigotry and intolerance towards those who are bigots, is that right? If that's the case, then the issue is whether the rationale behind bigotry and intolerance is sound. You can go ahead if you like and make the case why intolerance of homosexuality and transgenderism and equality for the same is defensible.

That aside...
1. The state has no business running religious education, unless they run it for all creeds. Its public money. THAT is what should be done outside of school.
2. LBGTQ people may be a minority, and you can even call them "abnormal", but that doesn't mean that their needs should not be catered to just like "normal" people. I'm left handed, among a very small minority of the populace and presumably, in your eyes, abnormal. Should I have been subject to "normalization" or ostracized? In previous times, an aunt of mine was beaten by the nuns in the west of Ireland into learning to write with her "right" hand.
3. I would mention other "abnormal" sections of the population, such as the kids who are accommodated and receive special needs education due to behavioural issues or intellectual disabilities, or even Down Syndrome children, but that brings up reminders of a previous, similar interaction on this board with a lad who went by various identities before being banned, among them No Wides. I can link you to those discussions if you are interested as they tread similar ground. Or maybe they're already familiar...?