Things that make you go What the F**k?

[David McKeown]

No justice for Poor Lyra McKee, yet.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd357j7020o

Some dirty sc**bag gets away with murder, whether these fellas were involved or not, some sick Cnut did it..

There was absolutely no possibility of a murder conviction here. They didn't pull the trigger, but assisted the fella who did. So they had to prove they knew he was going to kill her. Absolute performative over charging nonsense. Even a diplock court said no.

There was never going to be a convection on this, nobody thought it was going to get there, but someone has got away with it, thats the point...

Why put her family through this then? There are numerous things they could have been convicted of short of murder. At least give them that.

Who? The crown prosecutor? You've no idea what this family asked for, you probably haven't had any family member put through the wringer of losing a family in the north or had a family member been shot during the troubles.

If there was a slither, a slight chance that a convection could be given, I'll take every time

Yet here they are saying the system let them down..

The system has let many a person down, so probably best to do nothing..

There were dozens of achievable charges here. A conviction of some sort would be far better than a year long trial that had nothing of merit.

Why weren't they charged with these achievable charges?

[Baile Brigín 2]

No justice for Poor Lyra McKee, yet.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd357j7020o

Some dirty sc**bag gets away with murder, whether these fellas were involved or not, some sick Cnut did it..

There was absolutely no possibility of a murder conviction here. They didn't pull the trigger, but assisted the fella who did. So they had to prove they knew he was going to kill her. Absolute performative over charging nonsense. Even a diplock court said no.

There was never going to be a convection on this, nobody thought it was going to get there, but someone has got away with it, thats the point...

Why put her family through this then? There are numerous things they could have been convicted of short of murder. At least give them that.

Who? The crown prosecutor? You've no idea what this family asked for, you probably haven't had any family member put through the wringer of losing a family in the north or had a family member been shot during the troubles.

If there was a slither, a slight chance that a convection could be given, I'll take every time

Yet here they are saying the system let them down..

The system has let many a person down, so probably best to do nothing..

There were dozens of achievable charges here. A conviction of some sort would be far better than a year long trial that had nothing of merit.

Why weren't they charged with these achievable charges?

Not a clue. Political pressure? Ineptitude? Headline chasing? Same with Gerry Hutch. Absolutely zero chance the prosecution story would stand up.

From a cold, clinical legal perspective was Lyra McKee technically murdered? The arseholes who killed her did so by accident. So why waste a year and and a huge amount of money trying to prosecuted the fellas who drove the shooter to a riot with murder?

[Milltown Row2]

I think when you aim a gun at someone/anyone and shoot I don't think you're doing it to not murder someone.

The indiscriminate nature still resulted in her death, their excuse could be, sorry didn't mean to kill her I was meaning to shoot the peeler would be a bit weak, though may not have resulted in a prosecution but that's gone now, she'll be another innocent bystander on a list of many who's killers serve no time..

one can only hope their conscience wreck's them to their dying day

[David McKeown]

No justice for Poor Lyra McKee, yet.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd357j7020o

Some dirty sc**bag gets away with murder, whether these fellas were involved or not, some sick Cnut did it..

There was absolutely no possibility of a murder conviction here. They didn't pull the trigger, but assisted the fella who did. So they had to prove they knew he was going to kill her. Absolute performative over charging nonsense. Even a diplock court said no.

There was never going to be a convection on this, nobody thought it was going to get there, but someone has got away with it, thats the point...

Why put her family through this then? There are numerous things they could have been convicted of short of murder. At least give them that.

Who? The crown prosecutor? You've no idea what this family asked for, you probably haven't had any family member put through the wringer of losing a family in the north or had a family member been shot during the troubles.

If there was a slither, a slight chance that a convection could be given, I'll take every time

Yet here they are saying the system let them down..

The system has let many a person down, so probably best to do nothing..

There were dozens of achievable charges here. A conviction of some sort would be far better than a year long trial that had nothing of merit.

Why weren't they charged with these achievable charges?

Not a clue. Political pressure? Ineptitude? Headline chasing? Same with Gerry Hutch. Absolutely zero chance the prosecution story would stand up.

From a cold, clinical legal perspective was Lyra McKee technically murdered? The arseholes who killed her did so by accident. So why waste a year and and a huge amount of money trying to prosecuted the fellas who drove the shooter to a riot with murder?

There were 52 charges brought against 9 people. 4 charges resulted in conviction.

The case survived Galbraith applications and other significant legal issues. I think it's hard to criticise the bringing of the prosecution

[David McKeown]

I think when you aim a gun at someone/anyone and shoot I don't think you're doing it to not murder someone.

The indiscriminate nature still resulted in her death, their excuse could be, sorry didn't mean to kill her I was meaning to shoot the peeler would be a bit weak, though may not have resulted in a prosecution but that's gone now, she'll be another innocent bystander on a list of many who's killers serve no time..

one can only hope their conscience wreck's them to their dying day

The doctrine of transferred malice would apply 

[Baile Brigín 2]

I think when you aim a gun at someone/anyone and shoot I don't think you're doing it to not murder someone.

The indiscriminate nature still resulted in her death, their excuse could be, sorry didn't mean to kill her I was meaning to shoot the peeler would be a bit weak, though may not have resulted in a prosecution but that's gone now, she'll be another innocent bystander on a list of many who's killers serve no time..

one can only hope their conscience wreck's them to their dying day

So manslaughter...

You have to intend to kill someone for it to be murder, and nobody is claiming they targeted her.

I agree it's shite, but there are dozens of folk in Derry who know who shot her

[David McKeown]

I think when you aim a gun at someone/anyone and shoot I don't think you're doing it to not murder someone.

The indiscriminate nature still resulted in her death, their excuse could be, sorry didn't mean to kill her I was meaning to shoot the peeler would be a bit weak, though may not have resulted in a prosecution but that's gone now, she'll be another innocent bystander on a list of many who's killers serve no time..

one can only hope their conscience wreck's them to their dying day

So manslaughter...

You have to intend to kill someone for it to be murder, and nobody is claiming they targeted her.

I agree it's shite, but there are dozens of folk in Derry who know who shot her

Kill or cause really serious harm.