Boxing Thread

[Eire90]

ohhh the 3arena i thought it meant the aviva when i first seen it 3arena a big step down in  terms of attendance you think they would try for the aviva if croke park not available.

[Milltown Row2]

Sure she's Irelands greatest sports person, surprised that they are struggling to fill Croke Park... Well based on a few looneys here she is!






Walks away quietly ......

[JimStynes]

Casement Park! Only venue for it!

[tonto1888]

ohhh the 3arena i thought it meant the aviva when i first seen it 3arena a big step down in  terms of attendance you think they would try for the aviva if croke park not available.

The aviva isnt available either

[clonadmad]

The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

they dont

€400k is the price for renting Croke Park

which is less than 10% of the total expected take

Hearn doesnt want to pay for security/policing costs

he wants the GAA or the taxpayer to pay for it

Also Why is this boxing match even being entertained in Croke Park in the middle of the Championship when it could be accommodated in August September

and they also want it on the same weekend as 2 rugby european finals are on in Dublin

cue whinging then about beds pricing and availibilty

[gallsman]

How big would the demand be to watch Taylor fight?

Seems to make strange moves, been big fights out there fir her that she could have targeted over the past year or two for her legacy. She could have went after McCaskill again and had a chance to be undisputed at two weights simultaneously. Or why not go after Jonas' titles or even fight Shields.

Has schooled Jonas umpteen times. Nobody has any interest in that fight, never mind it being three weight classes above her.

Shields is similarly absolutely huge in comparison. Shields has been as high as Super Middle.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/boxing/2023/02/02/taylor-v-serrano-croke-park-dispute-eddie-hearns-claims-that-cost-behind-potential-3arena-move/Speaking at the announcement that the GAA returned a consolidated surplus of €6.7 million for 2022, McKenna outlined his dealings with Hearn about the hiring of Croke Park, stating that issues surrounding who would foot the security bill were the real issue.

"So they have been in conversation with us for some time. The last time we talked to them properly was before Christmas. We would love to have the fight here. We set our stall out on that basis.

"So our rent was coming in around €400,000. I think the rent for Wembley is about Stg£250,000-£300,000 (€281,000-€337,000). The real issue here is about security costs that which we felt the promoter should carry.

"And having gone through this with statutory services and our own team, we looked at the risk analysis on the event and we felt that the amount of security that you'd need would be at the top level."

The Aviva Stadium is set to host both the Challenge Cup and Champions Cup rugby finals on the same weekend as the proposed bout between Taylor and Serrano, something McKenna pointed out in his comments.

"It's going to go to the 3Arena and I think that's a far smaller, they've got 9,000. They've done some really, really good boxing events in the past so it will suit it very well. There are going to be challenges that weekend, no doubt, in the city because the Heineken Cup final is on so you will be stretching the gardaí across a whole series of events. They are very, very good at what they do, genuinely very, very good at what they do but I mean that's something that needs to be thought about as well."

McKenna insisted that Croke Park were keen to host the Olympic gold medal winner, even reducing their costs for the event.

"The costs quoted are far less than we'd normally charge because we would have loved to have had Katie Taylor. The eyes of the world would be on us. We're never shy in bringing world class events like the Special Olympics here."

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/boxing/2023/02/02/taylor-v-serrano-croke-park-dispute-eddie-hearns-claims-that-cost-behind-potential-3arena-move/Serrano is fighting Erika Cruz for the world featherweight title on Saturday, the result of which will determine if the rematch with Taylor will go ahead. And Hearn pointed towards a potential third fight in September between the two stars of the lightweight division.

"Now we'll be in a big arena in Dublin, subject to Serrano winning and subject to tying up a deal, and then hopefully in September we revisit Croke Park," said Hearn.

[nrico2006]

How big would the demand be to watch Taylor fight?

Seems to make strange moves, been big fights out there fir her that she could have targeted over the past year or two for her legacy. She could have went after McCaskill again and had a chance to be undisputed at two weights simultaneously. Or why not go after Jonas' titles or even fight Shields.

Has schooled Jonas umpteen times. Nobody has any interest in that fight, never mind it being three weight classes above her.

Shields is similarly absolutely huge in comparison. Shields has been as high as Super Middle.

The elite women fighters move up and down the weights more fluidly, maybe its due to lack of depth or how little power is a factor in this sport. Jonas has been down 3 or 4 weight divisions, and Shields has been down at LM too.
Even talk of Jonas v Shields. Others such as Serrano and McCaskill have moved up and down too. Jonas has fought Taylor as a professional and it was a close fight, same as their last amateur meeting. She now holds a lot of belts, similar to McCaskill, so why not target those titles?  There would be a lot more demand to see those fights than there would for a lot of Taylors previous opponents.

[Baile Brigín 2]

The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

they dont

€400k is the price for renting Croke Park

which is less than 10% of the total expected take

Hearn doesnt want to pay for security/policing costs

he wants the GAA or the taxpayer to pay for it

Also Why is this boxing match even being entertained in Croke Park in the middle of the Championship when it could be accommodated in August September

and they also want it on the same weekend as 2 rugby european finals are on in Dublin

cue whinging then about beds pricing and availibilty

The FAI and IRFU didn't get CP for 400k, but if that's what he says that's what he says

[seafoid]

The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

they dont

€400k is the price for renting Croke Park

which is less than 10% of the total expected take

Hearn doesnt want to pay for security/policing costs

he wants the GAA or the taxpayer to pay for it

Also Why is this boxing match even being entertained in Croke Park in the middle of the Championship when it could be accommodated in August September

and they also want it on the same weekend as 2 rugby european finals are on in Dublin

cue whinging then about beds pricing and availibilty

The FAI and IRFU didn't get CP for 400k, but if that's what he says that's what he says

Money was considerably more fluirseach pre the 2008 crash.

[Baile Brigín 2]

The price is the price, if Eddie Hearn doesn't like it then the GAA are probably doing something right.

But it's wbat the price is that is the issue. It's not like for like as Wembley is in a city with 5 other 50,000 plus venues wheras Dublin has 1, but it doesn't explain why the GAA want 1.2m a day.

they dont

€400k is the price for renting Croke Park

which is less than 10% of the total expected take

Hearn doesnt want to pay for security/policing costs

he wants the GAA or the taxpayer to pay for it

Also Why is this boxing match even being entertained in Croke Park in the middle of the Championship when it could be accommodated in August September

and they also want it on the same weekend as 2 rugby european finals are on in Dublin

cue whinging then about beds pricing and availibilty

The FAI and IRFU didn't get CP for 400k, but if that's what he says that's what he says

Money was considerably more fluirseach pre the 2008 crash.

And becausethe GAA had the FAI and IRFU by the bollocks as it was that or Glasgow. But it is odd that the price has fallen by 66% in 15 years.

What do the wimmin get charged?

[Captain Scarlet]

Lads saying the Government need to step in! So the Irish taxpayer subsidizes Matchroom Boxing??!!

The other figure today is €500k for security and other costs. How does that break down? McKenna even said that if they were to go for this there was no way there would be enough time to sell out Croker Park.

Would the licence even be granted on the 20th with the rugby on that day? Eddie Hearn is full of shite but that's his business to make noise about things.

[oakleaflad]

Are we ignoring the absolute state of the Croke Park pitch and the fact this fight is due to take place in the middle of the Championship? Eddie Hearn can get to f***

[Captain Scarlet]

Are we ignoring the absolute state of the Croke Park pitch and the fact this fight is due to take place in the middle of the Championship? Eddie Hearn can get to f***

A lot of GAA-bashers are happy to. It's the Grab All Association versus a cheeky chappy from Essex! If he thought it would sell out he would make sure he didn't leave money behind.

Less people in the venue means more PPV as well. How do people take these lads on their word?