Boxing Thread

[screenexile]

For Wilder to win, he would have needed what, another 4 rounds out of the 10 (not counting the 9th and 12th)?  Joke, strong case that Fury won at least 9 of the other 10 rounds.

I don't think so there were a few rounds that were close enough and could have gone either way. . . Fury spending so much time holding as well while Wilder was throwing punches (and missing I'll agree) probably didn't help his cause.

I'd happily watch them scrap again and I don't think it affects the Joshua fight as he probably wouldn't have boxed either early next year anyway!

[Taylor]

For Fury to win he had to win clearly, to many it looked like he did but Screen is right that a few of the rounds were tight(ish) and with Wilder throwing punches (mostly missing) it may have tainted the judges viewing.

Joshua would not beat either of them and Eddie knows that. Will avoid them for as long as he can and fight duds like Whyte etc and make as much as he possibly can.

[screenexile]

For Fury to win he had to win clearly, to many it looked like he did but Screen is right that a few of the rounds were tight(ish) and with Wilder throwing punches (mostly missing) it may have tainted the judges viewing.

Joshua would not beat either of them and Eddie knows that. Will avoid them for as long as he can and fight duds like Whyte etc and make as much as he possibly can.

I agree with that I don't think he'll fight them until he's exhausted everything else but they're 2 big paydays for him when the time comes and I think the fights will happen at some stage!

[Milltown Row2]

Well then its strange that ringside boxing commentators of 40 years experience of doing that job, described it as being a disgrace!  Americans also..

[Medic]

Evgeny Romanov | THE MAN WHO KNOCKED OUT DEONTAY WILDER... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1gTxYRy93w

[AZOffaly]

I scored it 116-113 to Fury, for whatever that's worth. I had him winning 7 of the 12 rounds and drawing 3. The only rounds I had Wilder winning were the knockdown rounds, which I scored 10-8.

[nrico2006]

A lot of the rounds weren't really that tight.  Fury was making Wilder miss constantly and was using the jab to control the pace.  I'm sure the punch stats would back up the fact that Fury landed more too.  He was the clear winner.  After five rounds Mayweather had Fury 5 up. 

[Boycey]

I scored it 116-113 to Fury, for whatever that's worth. I had him winning 7 of the 12 rounds and drawing 3. The only rounds I had Wilder winning were the knockdown rounds, which I scored 10-8.

Giving Wilder one of your drawn rounds and scoring one of the close rounds 10-9 to Wilder instead of Fury would take it to 114-114 which shows how fine the margins are. The 115-111 to Wilder is an outlier though.

The BBC correspondent said it was contentious rather than controversial in that he thought Fury won but also thought enough rounds were hard to call that he could see how others might score it different.

I thought Fury won

[Jeepers Creepers]

To beat a champion, do you not have to either knock him out or Win almost every round?

[AZOffaly]

I scored it 116-113 to Fury, for whatever that's worth. I had him winning 7 of the 12 rounds and drawing 3. The only rounds I had Wilder winning were the knockdown rounds, which I scored 10-8.

Giving Wilder one of your drawn rounds and scoring one of the close rounds 10-9 to Wilder instead of Fury would take it to 114-114 which shows how fine the margins are. The 115-111 to Wilder is an outlier though.

The BBC correspondent said it was contentious rather than controversial in that he thought Fury won but also thought enough rounds were hard to call that he could see how others might score it different.

I thought Fury won

Agreed. I thought Fury won, but I don't think it was egregious for the UK judge to score it a draw. I can't understand the guy that scored it so heavily to Wilder though.

[oakleaflad]

To beat a champion, do you not have to either knock him out or Win almost every round?

You have to win the fight the exact same way you win any other fight.

[gallsman]

I scored it 116-113 to Fury, for whatever that's worth. I had him winning 7 of the 12 rounds and drawing 3. The only rounds I had Wilder winning were the knockdown rounds, which I scored 10-8.

Giving Wilder one of your drawn rounds and scoring one of the close rounds 10-9 to Wilder instead of Fury would take it to 114-114 which shows how fine the margins are. The 115-111 to Wilder is an outlier though.

The BBC correspondent said it was contentious rather than controversial in that he thought Fury won but also thought enough rounds were hard to call that he could see how others might score it different.

I thought Fury won

Agreed. I thought Fury won, but I don't think it was egregious for the UK judge to score it a draw. I can't understand the guy that scored it so heavily to Wilder though.

It was a significantly worse drawn card than the GGG-Canelo ones. Furry was a clear (it not comfortable because of the knockdowns) winner for me.

[Hound]

I scored it 116-113 to Fury, for whatever that's worth. I had him winning 7 of the 12 rounds and drawing 3. The only rounds I had Wilder winning were the knockdown rounds, which I scored 10-8.

Not worth a thing if you have 3 draws! You have to call each round. Despite the likes of knobhead Carl Froch continuing to give 10-10 rounds on his Sky scorecard pretty much every fight he does, the judges are told they have to pick a winner. Basically a 10-10 is left only as an option if nobody does anything.

None of the 3 judges scored a 10-10 in any of the 12 rounds at the weekend and there were no even rounds called in either of GGG-Alvarez fights, despite a helluva lot of rounds bring close. There's less than 1% of rounds called 10-10. Personally, I think it should used more widely, but the interpretation of the rules is that over 3 minutes one fighter must have done more than the other, even if it was only very slight.

[gallsman]

No, you absolutely do not have to pick a winner. Judges not having the balls to call rounds draws is half the problem.

[north_antrim_hound]

No, you absolutely do not have to pick a winner. Judges not having the balls to call rounds draws is half the problem.

Anybody giving wilder the first 4 rounds has a big set of nuts. It was blatant cheating and someone must be lining his pockets. Boxing popularity in the USA has been in steady Decline so you have to wonder why. The boxing public are not stupid and have turned their back on the sport because of boxers who refuse to fight the best opponent and judges like Pochun.