Boxing Thread

[ONeill]

Deontay Wilder, Luis Ortiz and Joseph Parker are the only opponents Joshua should be thinking about.

[Wildweasel74]

Conditioning? he was blowing from the end of the 5th round, hes too easy to hit cause he not mobile enough, part of this is to do with his weight, why he need to be coming in at 18stone, its not rugby he playing

[gallsman]

Fury is the lineal champ. If he says he's back and wants the fight, he can't be ignored.

But ffs to say he's flawed I strongly disagree.

You don't think he's flawed?! Therefore you think he's a perfect fighter? He was hurt by the first decent punch Klitschko threw and gets hot far, far too easily. He gets plenty of credit, that he has earned, but he's plenty left to learn.

[BennyHarp]

Conditioning? he was blowing from the end of the 5th round

He knocked him out in the 11th, he got his wind back. Getting hit flush by a world class heavyweight would get anyone blowing. For someone blowing in the 5th after shipping a few heavy hits, to knock someone out as clinically as he did in the 11th is a testament to his conditioning.

Though I do agree he's too easy to hit.

[ONeill]

I think it was the round after Vlad knocked down Joshua that the English man fought his best round. He lost it, but he threw about a dozen punches, chatted to Vlad and bought himself time to recover.

[gallsman]

Conditioning? he was blowing from the end of the 5th round

He knocked him out in the 11th, he got his wind back. Getting hit flush by a world class heavyweight would get anyone blowing. For someone blowing in the 5th after shipping a few heavy hits, to knock someone out as clinically as he did in the 11th is a testament to his conditioning.

Though I do agree he's too easy to hit.

He was blowing in the fifth through his own efforts though, not from getting hit. He had Wlad badly hurt 30 odd seconds into the round and Wlad was able to come back because he gassed so hard.

[BennyHarp]

Conditioning? he was blowing from the end of the 5th round

He knocked him out in the 11th, he got his wind back. Getting hit flush by a world class heavyweight would get anyone blowing. For someone blowing in the 5th after shipping a few heavy hits, to knock someone out as clinically as he did in the 11th is a testament to his conditioning.

Though I do agree he's too easy to hit.

He was blowing in the fifth through his own efforts though, not from getting hit. He had Wlad badly hurt 30 odd seconds into the round and Wlad was able to come back because he gassed so hard.

Wlad caught him with a big left hand in the fifth. Watch it back! Regardless, he was still able to continue, survive a huge onslaught and knock his man out 6 rounds later. I wish I could gas out like that!

[Syferus]

That was a great fight. Joshua has hands like stone and nearly took vlads head off with that uppercut, that punch alone won the fight. Joshua will destroy anyone else. He has shown he has the balls to fight the top guys, yes Vlad is 41 but he was untouchable for 10years. I feel there just wasn't anyone good enough to take him. You also have to remember this lad started boxing at 18, yes 18. Thats a lot of missed learning at youth clubs, junior and school tournaments getting your head pounded. I hope there's a rematch.

Fury beat him 18 months ago.

The uppercut didn't put him down.

He's flawed, which he acknowledges and could get out worked by a crafty fighter like Fury. He could get sparked by a puncher like Wilder. He's doing great for a guy who has had 19 Pro fights bit he's a long way from the finished article.

I don't disagree that wilder could sink him on the chin, but THEY ARE HEAVYWEIGHT BOXERS, by right if any top level fighter connects on the kisser then the fight is over (see haseem rachman). But ffs to say he's flawed I strongly disagree. I for one dislike Eddie Hearn and his mini Murdoch corp but his fighters seem to get a lot of his hate, social media is full already of '' rolly eyes oh sure he only beat a 41 year old'' give the lad some effin credit.

Wilder isn't a threat in the least.

[gallsman]

Oh course he's a threat. Wilder is limited, but can bang. AJ gets hit, a lot, and can be hurt.

[bennydorano]

He should stay away from Fury, a dangerous menace who could quite easily beat him.

I'd say AJ will fight 2 dummies and then Wilder next Summer. If he fights Klitchsko again I think he wins too, bound to have learnt so much from 2nite & Vlad's improving years are long gone.

Joshua is definitely not the finished article but looking at the division he could be a unified champ for a looooong time.

[nrico2006]

Joshua will reign for years. Only fighters out there who could give him a fight are Wilder, Ortiz and two Furys. Doubts over the futures of the Furys, Ortiz is old and Wilder can bang q bit but you would fancy Joshua to knock him out.

[bridgegael]

This fight only confirms that Fury would beat Joshua. Fury schooled klitschko in his own backyard. The amount of disservice shown to that victory is pathetic. Yes fair play to Joshua for getting back up, but his aura is gone.   Wilder is licking his lips and rightly so!

[screenexile]

Joshua will reign for years. Only fighters out there who could give him a fight are Wilder, Ortiz and two Furys. Doubts over the futures of the Furys, Ortiz is old and Wilder can bang q bit but you would fancy Joshua to knock him out.

+1

Lads lets be honest Fury gave Wlad something nobody had ever seen before and he couldn't cope. Given his troubles is this going to happen again? No chance!

Fury will get himself in shape in the next 2/3 years but the hunger isn't there he won't be the same as he was. Truth is nobody in the division can touch AJ for the next 3-5 years and he will close the division for the foreseeable future.

Hugely enjoyable fight tonight though!

[Milltown Row2]

AJ was out on his feet in round 5 after a flurry of punches, he wasn't hit during that period and then stopped... would be worrying for his camp that he wasted so much energy and was drained, which left him open... but fair fecks to him, huge learning curve that he just about got over, he was behind on points before the knock down in the 11th

[bennydorano]

I've rewatched from the 11th on round a few times since & some point the commentators said Joshua was ahead 2-1 on the judges' scorecards, not sure if this was the unofficial ringside scores (Showtime's, Sky's & German TV's) as they were referring to these during the fight  or if they were the real judges' cards. I was a bit surprised myself tbh - unless I picked it up wrong.