Boxing Thread

[moysider]

Carruths brother one of the men who got rid of Billy Walsh.
Dunne is obviously uncomfortable with the whole setup and biting his tongue.

Carruth wasn't one bit happy at the suggestion that Walsh's departure had anything to do with the losses to date.

Thought Bernard Dunne gave good analysis, no excuses or blaming the ref

Yes. He said that Ward didn't show up basically and that his tactics were bad. Diplomatic way of saying that coaching and preparation was poor. Saying a boxer didn't do himself justice and looked tired and unfit in first fight in Olympics is fairly damning. How does that happen??

I just think he was beaten. Not by a better boxer as such, but by an opponent he couldn't  deal with effectively. Even though he was a familiar enough opponent and they would have analysed him inside out or so you would think.   

[Asal Mor]

Carruths brother one of the men who got rid of Billy Walsh.
Dunne is obviously uncomfortable with the whole setup and biting his tongue.

Carruth wasn't one bit happy at the suggestion that Walsh's departure had anything to do with the losses to date.

Thought Bernard Dunne gave good analysis, no excuses or blaming the ref

f**k Carruth, it's hard to argue that Walsh's departure hasn't had a negative effect on the setup!!! Both Ward and Barnes looked sluggish whether it was the weight or training and the O'Reilly situation beggars belief!

Carruth was making me angry listening to him. To say that O' Reilly's positive test, the Barnes weight fiasco and Joe Ward totally under-performing, had nothing to do with coaching is ignorant. I didn't know the reason but you could tell he was a lad with a grudge against Walsh. To say that it's just down to the boxers to perform and the coach is only the guy who gives you water between rounds, is bizarre, especially coming from a lad who is one of the most limited boxers to ever win an Olympic gold, something he could not have come close to doing without good coaching and a scoring system that rewarded cagey, negative boxing.

[macdanger2]

Carruths brother one of the men who got rid of Billy Walsh.
Dunne is obviously uncomfortable with the whole setup and biting his tongue.

Carruth wasn't one bit happy at the suggestion that Walsh's departure had anything to do with the losses to date.

Thought Bernard Dunne gave good analysis, no excuses or blaming the ref

f**k Carruth, it's hard to argue that Walsh's departure hasn't had a negative effect on the setup!!! Both Ward and Barnes looked sluggish whether it was the weight or training and the O'Reilly situation beggars belief!

Carruth was making me angry listening to him. To say that O' Reilly's positive test, the Barnes weight fiasco and Joe Ward totally under-performing, had nothing to do with coaching is ignorant. I didn't know the reason but you could tell he was a lad with a grudge against Walsh. To say that it's just down to the boxers to perform and the coach is only the guy who gives you water between rounds, is bizarre, especially coming from a lad who is one of the most limited boxers to ever win an Olympic gold, something he could not have come close to doing without good coaching and a scoring system that rewarded cagey, negative boxing.

Was funny when he mentioned Ward's tough draw, how he would have had to fight the french guy in the next round. 

[JimStynes]

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/roy-jones-jr-s-br-long-goodbye/

Cracking article about the legend Roy Jones Junior. It's long but a great read. I wish he would retire before he seriously gets hurt.

[muppet]

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/roy-jones-jr-s-br-long-goodbye/

Cracking article about the legend Roy Jones Junior. It's long but a great read. I wish he would retire before he seriously gets hurt.

Excellent article. Thanks for putting it up.

[Tony Baloney]

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/roy-jones-jr-s-br-long-goodbye/

Cracking article about the legend Roy Jones Junior. It's long but a great read. I wish he would retire before he seriously gets hurt.

Excellent article. Thanks for putting it up.

Is it the money, the attention or the adrenaline that keeps these boys going? Surely they have money in the bank.

[gallsman]

That piece is from before his fight with Maccarinelli which ended...with another brutal knockout. Big Mac had been on the receiving end of too many of those as well.

[JimStynes]

That piece is from before his fight with Maccarinelli which ended...with another brutal knockout. Big Mac had been on the receiving end of too many of those as well.

If I remember correctly, Maccarinelli didn't celebrate the knockout and was nearly apologetic about beating Jones Jnr. It's sad he has tainted his legacy, he should have retired at the top. One of the best ever.

[nrico2006]

Good article.  He is the best I have ever saw.  Never forget watching him lose his perfect record against Montell Griffin, first time I got pissed off at a boxing result.  Never the same when he boiled down from HW.

[gallsman]

He should have quit after Ruiz alright. Interesting that he was chasing a Tyson fight and maybe if he got that he'd have quit. Even the decision he got over Tarver when coming back down off the Ruiz fight was a joke and then he had the bad KOs against Tarver and Johnson that was the beginning of the end.

[BennyHarp]

The Maccranelli fight was one of the most bizarre boxing matches I've seen. He was fighting out of Russia if I'm not mistaken and stood for the Russian national anthem. Enzo then knocked him out fairly swiftly. Jones Jr was definitely one of the greatest and it's difficult to understand why or how someone like him keeps going. He just can't let go. I fear a very tragic ending to his story!

[gallsman]

The Maccranelli fight was one of the most bizarre boxing matches I've seen. He was fighting out of Russia if I'm not mistaken and stood for the Russian national anthem. Enzo then knocked him out fairly swiftly. Jones Jr was definitely one of the greatest and it's difficult to understand why or how someone like him keeps going. He just can't let go. I fear a very tragic ending to his story!

He took out Russian citizenship, honoured by Putin etc. Have to dig out an article I read, possibly from Guardian about the circumstances around it. Jones trying to claim it wasn't just a stunt etc. It was a freak show, not an athletic competition. Two lads who are sure to have brain damage swinging at each other. You can hear the slurring in Jones' voice in his analysis on the HBO broadcasts. A crying shame as his analysis is incredible, a brilliant replacement for Steward.

The scariest thing for me from the Bleacher Report piece before the fight was that Jones genuinely appeared to think he could win the cruiserweight title. Utterly delusional.

[CiKe]

The Maccranelli fight was one of the most bizarre boxing matches I've seen. He was fighting out of Russia if I'm not mistaken and stood for the Russian national anthem. Enzo then knocked him out fairly swiftly. Jones Jr was definitely one of the greatest and it's difficult to understand why or how someone like him keeps going. He just can't let go. I fear a very tragic ending to his story!

He took out Russian citizenship, honoured by Putin etc. Have to dig out an article I read, possibly from Guardian about the circumstances around it. Jones trying to claim it wasn't just a stunt etc. It was a freak show, not an athletic competition. Two lads who are sure to have brain damage swinging at each other. You can hear the slurring in Jones' voice in his analysis on the HBO broadcasts. A crying shame as his analysis is incredible, a brilliant replacement for Steward.

The scariest thing for me from the Bleacher Report piece before the fight was that Jones genuinely appeared to think he could win the cruiserweight title. Utterly delusional.

Someone at the Mayo clinic must not be doing their job right if something hasn't been detected at this point and that is what he is hanging on to.

Nrico, I remember watching that as well, but he took sweet revenge in the rematch!

[Walter Cronc]

Does anyone give Brook a chance against GGG??

The main fight has got a decent undercard too. Looking forward to seeing Benn jr!

[HiMucker]

Does anyone give Brook a chance against GGG??

I cant see anything other than a GGG knockout.  Might place a bet for the 8th round.  Looking forward to it.  About time the fella was able to get a big fight.