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JimStynes

McGregors wouldn't lay a glove on him

BennyHarp

Quote from: JimStynes on May 14, 2016, 07:26:32 PM
McGregors wouldn't lay a glove on him

And would get picked off all night long, Floyd could really embarrass him! This fight won't happen!
That was never a square ball!!

JimStynes

McGregor walks around the ring with his chin up like a lighthouse. Mayweather would stop him!

BennyHarp

A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?
That was never a square ball!!

omaghjoe

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2016, 11:11:47 PM
A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?

My understanding is the former Benny tho it almost always works out 10-8 regardless. Interestingly I think Khan-Maidana rd 10 worked out at 10-8 without a knockdown.

CiKe

Quote from: omaghjoe on May 15, 2016, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2016, 11:11:47 PM
A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?

Think you can have 9-9 definitely if one falla is winning the round but gets knocked down (would need to be winning round handily). 10-8 without a knockdown not that uncommon if one of them is getting a pasting.

My understanding is the former Benny tho it almost always works out 10-8 regardless. Interestingly I think Khan-Maidana rd 10 worked out at 10-8 without a knockdown.

BennyHarp

So a flash knock down doesn't necessarily cost you a round then?
That was never a square ball!!

Medic

#4432
Max Kellerman really knows his boxing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHg3br1bpc

Eta: ESPN First Take debate Gennady GGG Golovkin vs Floyd Mayweather... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqulXAOQJ9k
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Atticus_Finch

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 15, 2016, 11:48:11 AM
So a flash knock down doesn't necessarily cost you a round then?

Unless you return the knockdown then it generally will cost you the round as far as I know.  The only exception to that is if you have to factor in a point deduction for fouls. That's the only way I think you could get a 9-9 round.

If fighter A knocks fighter B down and goes on to win the round then it's 10-8. If fighter B gets knocked down and goes on to win the round then it would be scored 10-9 in fighter A's favour.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

Atticus_Finch

Quote from: omaghjoe on May 14, 2016, 05:40:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 12, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
a great warrior

http://www.the42.ie/matthew-macklin-retires-2765399-May2016/

He was indeed. Put in 2 great attempts at winning a World title. I actually never seen the fight with Strum before so I watched it there... actually could see how Strum could have been deemed the winner in that. He had much more cleaner punches than Macklin who threw many more punches, depends how you are scoring it, defo the kind of decision you get at home tho.

On a side note did Strum ever attempt to avoid a punch by moving his body? he's all gloves and elbows.

Pity the Andy Lee or John Duddy fight never materialised but sure thats pro boxing

Quote from: omaghjoe on May 14, 2016, 05:40:56 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 12, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
a great warrior

http://www.the42.ie/matthew-macklin-retires-2765399-May2016/

He was indeed. Put in 2 great attempts at winning a World title. I actually never seen the fight with Strum before so I watched it there... actually could see how Strum could have been deemed the winner in that. He had much more cleaner punches than Macklin who threw many more punches, depends how you are scoring it, defo the kind of decision you get at home tho.

On a side note did Strum ever attempt to avoid a punch by moving his body? he's all gloves and elbows.

Pity the Andy Lee or John Duddy fight never materialised but sure thats pro boxing

Shame those bouts never materialised indeed.

At one stage there was the prospect of having some great match ups at middleweight and at one point it looked like Sky were going to put on a "super six style" event featuring the likes of Macklin, Andy Lee, Murray and Barker they even did a "Gloves are off" episode with them all but it never transpired.

Macklin was an entertaining fighter and mixed it with the very best. St the end of a harsh decision against Sturm and fought Sergio Martinez when he was close to his best.

I wonder how much events outside the ring were a factor in his decision to hang up the gloves ? The Kinahan gang are known associates of MGM (Macklin's gym Marbella) and it was no coincidence when an MGM weigh in at the Regency hotel in Dublin was used to try and target a Kinahan gang member.  There was also the shooting of Jamie Moore (his former trainer) while he was training Macklin out in Marbella a couple of years back.  Being close to those events would surely take it's toll on anyone.  One thing for sure is that if Macklin ever decides to release an autobiography it would be an interesting read. 
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

omaghjoe

I really wish Mayweather would f**k off but ive been wishing that for a wile now. You cant avoid his slabbering in boxing news these days and you cant avoid it. He is an egotistical moron who will say anything to remain in the limelight. As far as I am concerned he is finished.

The McGregor fight will not happen, a GGG fight will not happen, if he does come out of retirement it will be another borefest with Pacquiao.

Syferus

Danny Garcia is the hot tip. Easy win for Mayweather. May-Pac II or even May-McGregor would be far more interesting.

BennyHarp

Quote from: Syferus on May 16, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
Danny Garcia is the hot tip. Easy win for Mayweather. May-Pac II or even May-McGregor would be far more interesting.

If and it's a big IF Mayweather was to fight McGregor, could he seriously claim a fight against someone who has never boxed professionally before as his 50 - 0? It surely would be like an exhibition fight and not be officially sanctioned by any worthwhile boxing board.
That was never a square ball!!

gallsman

Mayweather-McGregor would be in no way interesting whatsoever ffs. It would be a one sided schooling with no redeeming features..

lurganblue

#4439
Quote from: gallsman on May 17, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
Mayweather-McGregor would be in no way interesting whatsoever ffs. It would be a one sided schooling with no redeeming features..

McGregor's mouth would sell it beforehand but i agree, completely schooled.

Haye ready to fight wilder if the povetkin fight falls apart.  The Haye comeback has been useless to date. Hasnt challenged himself at all. Pointless.  Would like to see him fight Wilder