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BennyHarp

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

The only way Froch can win this is in a Benn v McClellan style war and (a big) if we find out that Golovkin doesn't quite fancy the war. I really would fear that it could be just as brutal.
That was never a square ball!!

oakleaflad

Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Syferus

Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Or is as wide open since he was U10..

nrico2006

Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Or is as wide open since he was U10..

Exactly.  Froch isn't going to change, he won't come with a plan to try and fight on the back foot or try and dance around the ring, he will go straight for Golovkin and Froch will be a sitting duck.  This fight wouldn't go by the 8th round.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

BennyHarp

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Or is as wide open since he was U10..

Exactly.  Froch isn't going to change, he won't come with a plan to try and fight on the back foot or try and dance around the ring, he will go straight for Golovkin and Froch will be a sitting duck.  This fight wouldn't go by the 8th round.

But it could be a hell of an eight rounds
That was never a square ball!!

screenexile

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 22, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Or is as wide open since he was U10..

Exactly.  Froch isn't going to change, he won't come with a plan to try and fight on the back foot or try and dance around the ring, he will go straight for Golovkin and Froch will be a sitting duck.  This fight wouldn't go by the 8th round.

But it could be a hell of an eight rounds

It would tear strips of MAY/PAQ anyways!!

oakleaflad

Quote from: screenexile on May 22, 2015, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 22, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
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Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Lads I would have GGG as a favorite here but not overwhelmingly so. I think some of you are underestimating just how naturally bigger Froch is compared to him. GGG won't have faced anyone who punches anywhere near as hard as Froch.

Or is as wide open since he was U10..

Exactly.  Froch isn't going to change, he won't come with a plan to try and fight on the back foot or try and dance around the ring, he will go straight for Golovkin and Froch will be a sitting duck.  This fight wouldn't go by the 8th round.

But it could be a hell of an eight rounds

It would tear strips of MAY/PAQ anyways!!
Exactly. I'd pay to watch it. I did say I'd have Golovkin favorite but it should be the best scrap he's been in yet and good to watch.

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

No he hasn't but he will be coming forward against the hardest puncher he will ever face.  Lesser punchers than GGG have wobbled him too.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

JoG2

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

No he hasn't but he will be coming forward against the hardest puncher he will ever face.  Lesser punchers than GGG have wobbled him too.

Would love to see this fight. Would be a real rocky encounter. Wouldn't be surprised if Froch KO'd him in the 11/12 rounds. Its been 20 fights since GGG went the distance

I see Andre Ward is fighting Paul Smith next. Hard to believe its only Ward's 3rd fight since beating Froch in 2011

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

No he hasn't but he will be coming forward against the hardest puncher he will ever face.  Lesser punchers than GGG have wobbled him too.

They haven't put him down though. Froch's chin is like granite and he's a much bigger man than Golovkin has faced to date. Think Froch should stop though, 37 and hasn't fought in a year. Would be a great fight though.

omaghjoe

Well the thing is Froch has a great chin and great heart and can hit quite hard but skill-wise he is a a very average boxer.
The first two are the main reasons he has got so far which says alot about their importance in boxing.

GGG tho is a supremely skillful boxer and punches like he's got a hammer in his hands, and contrary to popular believe he actually has a great defence but rarely uses it.
His chin and his heart tho remain to be tested. He has been in with some good punchers such as Curtis Stevens and he actually gave Monroe a few free shots on Saturday but the true test of his chin is when he gets a well timed shot from an unexpected angle

On the other hand I am not sure that Froch is the man to test him. The size difference and headstrong Froch may make it may be a different fight than most GGG fights but I think that GGG's skillset will help him deal with Froch comfortably.

Anyway nothing is agreed yet it would be a crazy fight for Froch to take as his farewell bout and total respect goes to the guy if he takes it

oakleaflad

Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

No he hasn't but he will be coming forward against the hardest puncher he will ever face.  Lesser punchers than GGG have wobbled him too.

They haven't put him down though. Froch's chin is like granite and he's a much bigger man than Golovkin has faced to date. Think Froch should stop though, 37 and hasn't fought in a year. Would be a great fight though.
Jermain Taylor and George Groves both had Froch down, he came back to win both in fairness. I agree, Froch should retire. Would still be a great fight though.

CiKe

This could be Hagler Hearns type stuff. Make no mistake about it, Froch hits hard and is naturally bigger man. Don't think he will but for some reason I think back to when he boxed the ears off Arthur Abraham. Now he ain't in same league as GGG but was recognised as a brutal puncher and Froch opted not to get involved.

gallsman

Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2015, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Froch GGG would be amazing.  Used to like Froch years ago, but made a tube of himself the past few years and still cringing at his Mayweather interview.  GGG would knock him out pretty early.

Yeah, 'cos Froch has been really easy to knock out his whole career, hasn't he?

No he hasn't but he will be coming forward against the hardest puncher he will ever face.  Lesser punchers than GGG have wobbled him too.

They haven't put him down though. Froch's chin is like granite and he's a much bigger man than Golovkin has faced to date. Think Froch should stop though, 37 and hasn't fought in a year. Would be a great fight though.
Jermain Taylor and George Groves both had Froch down, he came back to win both in fairness. I agree, Froch should retire. Would still be a great fight though.

Put him down for good is clearly what I meant ffs. Neither of those knockdowns were the type of ones that have him out on his feet, unaware of what's going on. The man is as tough as old boots. His comeback against Taylor was outrageous. Just doesn't know when he's beaten.