Boxing Thread

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God14

Quote from: bridgegael on May 27, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
can i get the fight on sky box office if i dont have sky sports package?

Yep. Totally separate

gallsman

Quote from: Club Rossa on May 27, 2014, 04:34:55 PM
I think Froch totally underestimated Groves first time around.No doubt the stoppage was premature but I do think Froch would have finished Groves before the bell.I fancy Froch to stop him again but it would be no great shock either if Groves was to get the win.
Neither fighter covered themselves in glory in the build up to the first fight,but Froch has carried himself well this time while Groves continues to be as annoying as before.Hope Froch sparks him.
Will be interesting to see if Degale providing he does the business himself gets a shot at the winner.

Yup. Stoppage was early but I think it would have come 20-30 seconds later anyway. Froch had landed three or four huge shots right down the middle that Groves wasn't seeing.

If Groves wins, DeGale would be the sensible fight. If Froch wins, I don't think DeGale has done anywhere near enough to earn a shot. Froch should either take a big money fight in the States or retire.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: God14 on May 27, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on May 27, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
can i get the fight on sky box office if i dont have sky sports package?

Yep. Totally separate

How much is it to get the fight in?
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

nrico2006

Froch was doing well in that period but if Groves had took a count he would have probably seen out the round and regrouped.  He was in no more trouble then than Froch was in round 1, yet the referee was probably influenced by his own bias towards Frochs reputation as a tough fighter etc etc and gave him more of an advantage.  The fight is £15, £20 if you only order it on the day.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

STREET FIGHTER

Maybe the wrong thread but do you need an operating phone line to order it off sky??

nrico2006

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on May 28, 2014, 10:10:45 AM
Maybe the wrong thread but do you need an operating phone line to order it off sky??

Don't think it should matter.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

BennyHarp

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 28, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
Froch was doing well in that period but if Groves had took a count he would have probably seen out the round and regrouped.  He was in no more trouble then than Froch was in round 1, yet the referee was probably influenced by his own bias towards Frochs reputation as a tough fighter etc etc and gave him more of an advantage.  The fight is £15, £20 if you only order it on the day.

I think the line about the ref having a bias towards Froch due to his reputation is just spin by Groves and total nonsense. Groves was in trouble and Froch would have ended it but Foster definitely stepped in too early. Either way, one of the two of them knows the truth, if Groves genuinely was gone then it will have to play on his mind going into this fight, if not then he will be supremely confident again. For me, Froch can't be as bad again, he was caught flush early on and took a few rounds to recover and when he did he was walking through Groves' best shots. What makes this fight so interesting is that we just don't know and perhaps time caught up with Froch in the last fight and if that's the case then it will be very tough for him.
That was never a square ball!!

nrico2006

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 28, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 28, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
Froch was doing well in that period but if Groves had took a count he would have probably seen out the round and regrouped.  He was in no more trouble then than Froch was in round 1, yet the referee was probably influenced by his own bias towards Frochs reputation as a tough fighter etc etc and gave him more of an advantage.  The fight is £15, £20 if you only order it on the day.

I think the line about the ref having a bias towards Froch due to his reputation is just spin by Groves and total nonsense. Groves was in trouble and Froch would have ended it but Foster definitely stepped in too early. Either way, one of the two of them knows the truth, if Groves genuinely was gone then it will have to play on his mind going into this fight, if not then he will be supremely confident again. For me, Froch can't be as bad again, he was caught flush early on and took a few rounds to recover and when he did he was walking through Groves' best shots. What makes this fight so interesting is that we just don't know and perhaps time caught up with Froch in the last fight and if that's the case then it will be very tough for him.

My own opinion was that Froch was afforded more leeway as everyone in boxing is aware that he has one of the toughest chins, therefore I'm sure the referee thinks the same and honestly don't think he would have stopped Froch if the situation was reversed.  Froch wasn't at his best in comparison to other fights, but again I think people underestimate the role that Groves had in this.  Its the same in other sports, when a team plays bad its usually not initially put down to the opposition actually casuing this.  Groves put Froch under a lot of pressure from the start and through his combination of good movement, spped and power Froch wasn't really allowed to dictate the fight.  I don't think Froch was anything special against Kessler and to be honest I can see Groves winning this if he boxes smart when required.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Walter Cronc

What time is the Froch v Groves fight?

J OGorman

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 28, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 28, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
Froch was doing well in that period but if Groves had took a count he would have probably seen out the round and regrouped.  He was in no more trouble then than Froch was in round 1, yet the referee was probably influenced by his own bias towards Frochs reputation as a tough fighter etc etc and gave him more of an advantage.  The fight is £15, £20 if you only order it on the day.

I think the line about the ref having a bias towards Froch due to his reputation is just spin by Groves and total nonsense. Groves was in trouble and Froch would have ended it but Foster definitely stepped in too early. Either way, one of the two of them knows the truth, if Groves genuinely was gone then it will have to play on his mind going into this fight, if not then he will be supremely confident again. For me, Froch can't be as bad again, he was caught flush early on and took a few rounds to recover and when he did he was walking through Groves' best shots. What makes this fight so interesting is that we just don't know and perhaps time caught up with Froch in the last fight and if that's the case then it will be very tough for him.

I'd agree Benny. After the huge punch / knockdown (which most other fighters would not have got up / recovered from), Froch was was fighting in survival mode. Its some show of strength and heart to recover during a fight, esp as Groves was landing big shots during these rounds. So for me, Groves was fighting at full tilt, and Froch way below his full capacity. Unless Groves lands another blockbuster, Froch will pummel him into submission within 8-10 rounds. For me, Groves isnt at the same level as the super 6 brigade.
Have always been a big fan of Froch, his fights are always blood and thunder, has never ducked a fight which is a rarity in boxing these days with all the politics and the shysters lacing their greedy mits.
Re St George comes across as a right tit. What was he like with the 'handshake' the other night?

J OGorman

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 28, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
What time is the Froch v Groves fight?

walk in will be 10/10:30pm apparently Walter

Walter Cronc

Quote from: J OGorman on May 28, 2014, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 28, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
What time is the Froch v Groves fight?

walk in will be 10/10:30pm apparently Walter

Good man JOG.

God14

£16.95 to book the fight, very steep.

Contemplating watching it in the pub, but I enjoy the commentary
Other option is streaming it, but again its not the same - prob freeze once the action gets going.

CiKe

Just watched this for first time. Unquestionable that early stoppage and also unquestionable that Groves dominated the earlier rounds. The couple of rounds before the stoppage he was still landing good punches on Froch but never thought he looked like stopping him after the first couple rounds.

Froch has never been light on his feet but in this fight he seemed very leaden footed altogether. Whether this was result of the early heavy blows or not, not sure, but certainly he was slower of both hand and feet. If there was complacency involved, there won't be this time, in which case I would expect him to win more easily. Maybe we did finally see him grow old - in which case Groves has great chance  - but I still think Froch can find a way to win again, as I reckon good chance he would have finished it without the premature stoppaged

J OGorman

Quote from: God14 on May 28, 2014, 01:51:29 PM
£16.95 to book the fight, very steep.

Contemplating watching it in the pub, but I enjoy the commentary
Other option is streaming it, but again its not the same - prob freeze once the action gets going.

with the exception of Jim 'the dose' Watt