Boxing Thread

[everymanaman]

Froch was absolutely superb last night - one of the best performances I've seen in a while. It's repeated on Sky Sports 2 now. Fair play to him he's fought nearly everyone to fight in that division and more often than not gave a good account of himself. I wonder if a rematch with Andre Ward is on the cards.

Think a rematch with Kessler more likely. Would do well to stay away from Ward

[lurganblue]

Would be very surprised if Bute took the rematch contracted for Montreal. Not after that thumping. Froch needs to fight Ward again but in truth I still wouldn't fancy him to win.

Impressed by Frampton last night two. Controlled and smart throughout. Aggressive in the last two.

[screenmachine]

Froch very impressive and a refreshing boxer who doesn't seem to pick and choose who he fights. In reality Bute hadn't fought anyone of real note and was found out at world class level. A bit like Amir Khan I think, win handy fights well but not good enough for the very top level, hopefully he's found out again shortly as well!

[DuffleKing]

Time is running out for froch, who was never the best boxer but always one of the best fighters in the world. Always liked his heart in and class out of the ring. I'd say his last three fights might be kessler in nottingham followed by bute in Montreal, both of which I think he'll win, then finishing with ward in nottingham which he probably can't win

[BennyHarp]

Yeah I agree that time is running out for Froch and it's disappointing that he isn't regarded in the same league as Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe in the UK, but with probably only 2 or 3 fights left in his career, I'd say there's a few loose ends he'd want to tidy up. I'd love to see him beat Kessler (which he would) then have another rattle at Andre Ward. Can't see Ward coming to Nottingham, though if it did happen it's a ticket I'd definately want to try and get!

[INDIANA]

Yeah I agree that time is running out for Froch and it's disappointing that he isn't regarded in the same league as Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe in the UK, but with probably only 2 or 3 fights left in his career, I'd say there's a few loose ends he'd want to tidy up. I'd love to see him beat Kessler (which he would) then have another rattle at Andre Ward. Can't see Ward coming to Nottingham, though if it did happen it's a ticket I'd definately want to try and get!

he's better then all of them except calzaghe. who says he isnt rated? Balderdash of the highest order.

Benn, eubank and collins only fought themselves. Froch fights everyone. He's a brilliant boxer in my view and better then all 3.

[BennyHarp]

Yeah I agree that time is running out for Froch and it's disappointing that he isn't regarded in the same league as Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe in the UK, but with probably only 2 or 3 fights left in his career, I'd say there's a few loose ends he'd want to tidy up. I'd love to see him beat Kessler (which he would) then have another rattle at Andre Ward. Can't see Ward coming to Nottingham, though if it did happen it's a ticket I'd definately want to try and get!

he's better then all of them except calzaghe. who says he isnt rated? Balderdash of the highest order.

Benn, eubank and collins only fought themselves. Froch fights everyone. He's a brilliant boxer in my view and better then all 3.

Ah well at least you rate him, im sure he'll retire happy now. I agree with you - my point is that he's not the darling of the English media that some boxers have been eg. Bruno, Benn and more lately Khan which have meant he's not filling stadiums but hopefully a re-match with Ward may get him the real superfight his talent deserves.

[nrico2006]

Just read that they found Johnny Tapia dead.

[AZOffaly]

I was just looking in here to ask why Carl Froch was fighting Dan Shanahan there on saturday night? Jaysus he gave him some thumping. Once Froch realised that Bute couldn't hurt him, he just walked through the left hands. He could have knocked him down 4 or 5 times, fair play to Bute for standing up as long as he did.

[gallsman]

Just read that they found Johnny Tapia dead.

His life always seemed destined to end early. Suffered tragedy from an early age. RIP.

[gallsman]

Also just read that Paul Williams is likely paralysed from waist down after a motorbike crash in Atlanta yesterday. Shocking.

[ludermor]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18247073
Former world champion Paul Williams has been left paralysed from the waist down after a motorcycle accident on Sunday.

The 30-year-old American, a two-time WBO welterweight champion, severed his spinal cord after being thrown from his bike in Atlanta, Georgia.

Williams was scheduled to fight Saul Alvarez  for the Mexican's WBC light-middleweight crown in September.

However, manager George Peterson said the fighter had been told by doctors he was unlikely to walk again.

Peterson said: "Paul is in denial right now. It's been that way with him. You tell him he can't or won't do something, and he wants to prove you different.

"So whatever the doctors say, he's not listening. But they say that walking and boxing is not going to happen."

Williams beat Antonio Margarito for his first title in 2007, before losing his next fight to Carlos Quintana.

Williams beat Quintana in a rematch before surrendering his title when he moved up to light-middleweight, where he secured the interim WBO crown by defeating Verno Phillips.

The southpaw also fought at middleweight, beating future Hall of Fame fighter Ronald 'Winky' Wright and future world champion Sergio Martinez.

But a subsequent second-round knockout by the Argentine in 2010, and an unimpressive and controversial points win over Erislandy Lara the following year, saw his stock fall.

The scheduled fight against Alvarez, which was to have taken place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on 15 September, was a chance for Williams to prove he was still among the sport's elite fighters.

[CiKe]

So, Pacquiao vs Bradley.  I think Bradley is top notch and will beat him - whether he gets the decision is another matter. If it ends early however i'll be wrong and Pacquiao will remove him from his senses. Can't see Bradley winning by stoppage at all as Pacquiao has been in with bigger harder punching men who haven't been able to put him in trouble

[CiKe]

Given i reckon this has the potential for Bradley being screwed ( as per my previous prediction on Campillo v Cloud), the draw is 30/1. Think this represents decent value, particularly because in my book Pacquiao was clearly beaten last time out by Marquez yet still got the decision. Perhaps I'm being naive but hopefully this means more focus on the judges i.e they won't be able to totally screw Bradley by giving Pacquiao the win, but by the same token coming between Mayweather and Pacquiao might be too big a leap in principles for boxing judges hence suspect draw is feasible...

[DuffleKing]

What else is on the bill tonight?