Official Cavan GAA Thread

Started by BallyhaiseMan, November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM

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cavanmaniac

I've always advised giving him time to settle, but that's a first full league and championship done and the initial question marks that became concerns are now alarm bells. This was a matchup that provided an ideal platform for this manager and players at this stage of development. Now it looks like we tried to shake things up managerially and made an appointment that regressed us. He's unlikely to be jettisoned so quickly, so is there any flicker of hope he'll get it together over the coming months? I think none of us have any confidence.

Itchy

Let's hope our minors can give the county a much needed lift on Sunday. Anyone know who is the favourites? I presume Derry as they came from the supposed harder side of the draw. A win would give them a super chance of making the all Ireland semi as they'd be playing what I believe is an ordinary enough sligo team.

mrdeeds

There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

Itchy

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

Itchy

Another disappointing day yesterday. Derry were well drilled, very slick and lethal in front of the posts but I am sure that the Cavan management knew that before the game. Seems to me that no attempt was made to counter that. However, Derry identified our midfield as the key and put a big squeeze on there and wiped us out. Why am I always watching Cavan games and wondering why our opposition is more tactically astute. For example in the first 15 minutes yesterday we kicked every kick out to our midfield, didn't win one and were 6 points down. There was simply no plan for that happening. If we have broke even there we could have run them very close.

Our much vaunted midfield pairing looked to me to lack pace and aggression on the basis of this game, allowing Derry to drive past them. I was impressed with Madden who always wanted the ball and same of Pierson. The keeper was good too despite an unfortunate howler for the goals. The full back line is really weak, no pace, dreadful tackling and intelligence ( jumping into tackles they have no chance to win). Maybe occasion got to done if then but I'd reckon there are only 3 players there that will make the senior team.

mrdeeds

Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.

Itchy

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.

Surely to god there are some men in the county with a clue that could take some of these teams?

mrdeeds

Quote from: Itchy on July 17, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.

Surely to god there are some men in the county with a clue that could take some of these teams?

There was an outstanding candidate for the job but he didn't get it. Problem is lads get jobs if they have connections or do a good interview even though that means absolutely nothing.

Westside

Agree with everything you said Itchy. I did think that Smith looked like he was growing into the game before the black. Did anyone see what it was for? He was a big loss. Patterson didn't have a good game. I was impressed with Madden, keen to get on the ball. Thought Tiernan Reilly looked good when he came on, surprised he wasn't starting. It was encouraging to see how the players fought so hard to stay in touch with Derry for so long even though it seemed obvious from early on that they were playing a superior side.

Derry looked purposeful, a well drilled and professional outfit. Managers and water carriers and selectors all giving short consistent instructions from the line. We looked like a team of 15 players that were told to go out and 'go at them'. Serious lack of tactical thinking. We were being wiped in the full back line and midfield and absolutely nothing was done.
That said, Derry were on a different level physically. I don't think that we would have beaten them no matter what the tactics employed. That midfielder they brought on in the second half for all the world looked like a County Senior.

Itchy

Black card was for a foot trip. It was a ridiculous decision by a very poor ref who didn't look fit enough to run a 5k never mind keep up with play. If there was a trip it was totally accidental as the players just collided. Can't understand how referee cannot use a bit of cop on and ask themselves "was that cynical and intentional". But sure this is where gaa try out these referees and I've no doubt that lad will one day be reffing big games in the future despite being crap.

mrdeeds

Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.

Itchy

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.

Did he walk or was he pushed?

mrdeeds

Quote from: Itchy on July 26, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.

Did he walk or was he pushed?

His twitter account would infer walked but from what I heard few weeks ago pushed more than likely. County Board have identified changes needed in backroom team. Expect more but manager will remain.

Westside

Anyone know what's going on in the minor camp? What I'm hearing on the grapevine is woeful stuff.

Itchy

Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Anyone know what's going on in the minor camp? What I'm hearing on the grapevine is woeful stuff.

Sent you a pm there.