Official Cavan GAA Thread

[Denn Forever]

What the hell is wrong?  First h.alf sounded great.  Then Immplosion.  I

[Itchy]

Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.

[mrdeeds]

Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.

The players are well entitled to drink. Give up thier whole social life and don't go out to play bad. We need the u21 generation to stand up though. Mackey only one took game to them and he now 30. Manager is such a bluffer it's unreal. His interviews are bizarre. Players in 15 one day not in squad the next. Lads marginalised all year appear in bench today. No game plan. Players in no condition and so many hamstring injuries. He'll get another year because it will be argued he can watch club football. Needs to go though or we'll be a division three team.

[Itchy]

Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.

The players are well entitled to drink. Give up thier whole social life and don't go out to play bad. We need the u21 generation to stand up though. Mackey only one took game to them and he now 30. Manager is such a bluffer it's unreal. His interviews are bizarre. Players in 15 one day not in squad the next. Lads marginalised all year appear in bench today. No game plan. Players in no condition and so many hamstring injuries. He'll get another year because it will be argued he can watch club football. Needs to go though or we'll be a division three team.

I genuinely mean this, if I were apart of that shambles today you wouldn't see me in the imperial until Christmas. But that's just me. We can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level. Can you believe he managed to come out with the absolutely fabulous statement during an interview today. People will say it's his 1st year and he deserves another one at least and I understand that to an extent but surely to be given that he should have had to show some progress. The only progress I've heard is that we may have found a forward in Caoimhin o Reilly but on the other hand today was his first time this year on the pitch for the seniors!

[mrdeeds]

Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.

[Itchy]

Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.

Well the boils Mattie wasn't taking any responsibility on the BBC for a balls up. "We couldn't buy a break", "ref gave them soft frees". I think removing Hyland will prove to have been a terrible mistake. I can see us go to div 3 with this lad.

[mrdeeds]

Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.

Well the boils Mattie wasn't taking any responsibility on the BBC for a balls up. "We couldn't buy a break", "ref gave them soft frees". I think removing Hyland will prove to have been a terrible mistake. I can see us go to div 3 with this lad.

Lot of good teams in div 2.  Could easily go down.

[Denn Forever]

We can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level.

We seem to attract this type of manager.  Who ousted Hyland? 

Was there a marked difference in how the players approached the game in the second half?  Was there an apparent change of style as in we are 6 points ahead, we'll try and hold onto this lead?

[Itchy]

We can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level.

We seem to attract this type of manager.  Who ousted Hyland? 

Was there a marked difference in how the players approached the game in the second half?  Was there an apparent change of style as in we are 6 points ahead, we'll try and hold onto this lead?

Who ousted Hyland? Well for one there was a concerted effort by a muppet from Virginia on a Facebook page for one. A load of other Seanie fans that weren't happy that he had dropped their golden boy and my personal belief is that all that got into the players heads and they felt a new voice was needed to progress them. In the end the players asked for change. Careful what you wish for. Now look at what we are left with not even 12 months on.

[DuffleKing]

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start

[Itchy]

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start

Just interested to know why you think that?

[rodney trotter]

Fabulous. Fantastic. Class. That is all.

[mrdeeds]

Fabulous. Fantastic. Class. That is all.

He actually said it was a terrific performance and we got more scores than Tipperary.

[Westside]

Couldn't bring myself to post yesterday after that fiasco.

-We played for 20 minutes and got the 6 point lead through a lot of long range scores. It wasn't sustainable, you won't hit scores from the 45 on the outside of the boot for a whole game. For the last 10 or 15 minutes of the first half we passed around midfield with no urgency and it seemed the players thought they were 'controlling the tempo' and would be able to keep their noses in front and win without a massive effort.

-For the second game in a row, we got absolutely decimated at midfield. I can't recall us winning even one kickout or break in the second half. If I hadn't seen Cavan execute a highly functioning kickout strategy last year, I'd be saying Ray Galligan was the problem but it's the system. It looks like they have a system in place, shouting a code based on the area of the pitch the ball was going to. It failed and failed in spectacular fashion.

-Cian Mackey is Cavan's best player. He tried, as he did against Offaly, to lead the fight for Cavan but he wasn't getting the traction. He was being fouled smartly once he went past half way. When Mackey couldn't do it for us, nobody else did.

-Caoimhin Reilly had a solid first half. Got on the ball, kicked two nice scores. Then bizarrely in the second half, despite being inside when we didn't even make it into the Tipp 45 for long periods, went down with cramp (after kicking a bad wide when the game had gone tits up...) and had to be subbed. I don't know if this was lack of fitness or what.

-Ryan Connolly, I don't like criticising a young lad but he failed to make a single positive contribution. I thought after the Offaly game that he could settle a bit more as he got game time at this level, he seems to be getting worse.

-We can't tackle. Remember when we got numbers backed, stood men up and hassled and harried and turned it over? That doesn't happen. We now dive in rashly one by one until the opposition can get their shot away or we foul them and give away a free.

-The most depressing thing about it, it felt Longford in 2011. We phoned it in for a half of football and were ahead. When Tipp upped it in the second half we didn't want to know about it. There was no sign of a team that was united, no sign of a team that had faith in the game plan or the manager.

- Johnston actually looked like one of the few that really wanted to win the game when he came on. He tried to rally the troops and wanted to get involved and make a difference. It could well be his last game in a Cavan jersey but he's a player from a different era and I think he knows that himself. He was a wonderful talent in his prime but the game has changed.

- McGleenan. I don't like blaming the manager for all of our woes. We lack players with the natural talent to play at the top level. However, yesterday wasn't the top level. There was no facet of our play, apart from our long range shooting in the first half, that worked. Kickout strategy didn't work, man to man defending was awful (players diving in, rounded on the end line on several occasions) our cohesion up front, killer instinct (Mossy and Gearoid through on goal in the first half, could have put an even bigger lead up, and fisted it over) and just the general desire from the team didn't seem to be there.
McGleenan has won 2 games in league and championship all year. I don't think he's getting the best out of the players. I also think the players aren't as good as they think they are, and are only too happy to convince themselves it's the managers fault.
There's no right answer here but if the players aren't happy now, they won't be any happier come next winter when training starts. If they want rid of him, do it now and get it over and done with. We haven't seen anything, anything at all to show us that he's the man to improve this team. That said, I don't believe we will see big results no matter who we bring in. It's a poisoned chalice of the highest degree.

[DuffleKing]

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start

Just interested to know why you think that?

I don't know anyone who considered Mattie - nice fella that he is - remotely capable of coaching at county level. His record and reputation were very poor until Scotstown. On the face of Scotstown, there were solid achievements but if you know Monaghan club football you know that they should be winning the championship perpetually in that period. His reputation around schools football and MacRory cup in particular is probably the most telling analysis.