More sectarianism in Irish League Football

[Solomon Kane]

There was a linesman from the south in the past year that got awful abuse from a section of the wp faithful during a game. This is a fact and was commented on over on owc, even they acknowledged that it happened so why cant you?

What game was this?

[stew]

There was a linesman from the south in the past year that got awful abuse from a section of the wp faithful during a game. This is a fact and was commented on over on owc, even they acknowledged that it happened so why cant you?

What game was this?

Er.............................That would be the last game there was a linesman from the Republic. 

[Chrisowc]

There was a linesman from the south in the past year that got awful abuse from a section of the wp faithful during a game. This is a fact and was commented on over on owc, even they acknowledged that it happened so why cant you?

What game was this?

Er.............................That would be the last game there was a linesman from the Republic. 

Since it is fact maybe you would like to enlighten us all as to which game you refer?  Just to help you, I have carried out some research and you will have to go back further than the past year which you have claimed this took place.

Northern Ireland v Iceland
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83709/report=lu.html

Northern Ireland v Spain
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83713/report=lu.html

Northern Ireland v Latvia
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83719/report=lu.html

Northern Ireland v Sweden
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83722/report=lu.html

In between the Latvia and Sweden matches there was a friendly against Wales.  I do not have link for this but from the programme I can see the referee and his assistants were from Scotland and the fourth official from Belfast.

[his holiness nb]

Not alarming at all and once again MW you are playing the victim.

I don't have to 'play' the victim when I get the sort of treatment above. (i.e. treated as one of a collectivbe of 'themmuns' who all share the same brain or something)

Curious though how you jump onto my post to EG referring to him specifically, then on another hand whinge about it when we say you might possibly be of the same mindset 

Yet again you've managed to muddle things up. I was taking you up on your attitude. You brought EG into it. I continuted to address your attitude to me.

Its easy to cut and paste a selection of quotes to suit your argument and call it "alarming".
I could easily do the same to show the "alarming" views of you

Go ahead then, I challenge you to do just that.

Are you telling me Tony didn't call me 'OWC' on this thread, then say 'OWC' do something which I've never done? Are you saying 5ivetimes didn't make a completly groundless allegation that I'd "jumped on the Darren Graham bandwagon"? Are you saying that you didn't refer to "all the NI soccer contingent" having done something which in fact only myself and another poster had done, and went on in the same sentence to say this "contingent" had done something which I haven't done and which I would doubt the other poster did either?

Stop me if I'm getting any facts wrong here

and others, but thats just lazy.

I'll tell you what's lazy. Branding a group of people and not bothering your arse to think about which one of "themmuns" has actually expressed which opinion. Extremely bloody lazy.

I've given an full explanation to everything I have said.
Regarding you "challenge" for me to copy and paste quotes I wont do that for a few reasons.

1) its selective quoting and not telling the whole story, I dont approve of this method, I'd hardly call you up on it only to do the same myself 
2) I have much better things to than to indulge yourself in more of this.

As I said, I have explained my comments clearly, you have asked me about what Tony and 5 times have said as part of your argument. I suggest you bring that up with them not me, after all we arent all a "a collective of 'themmuns' who all share the same brain or something" as you put it.

I wont be online for the rest of the day as I have some work to do, you clearly wont accept my explanation of anything, and to be honest I think you are talking a great deal of tripe too, with a few valid points thrown in. So lets just drop this, its page six, every valid point worth making has been made already.

[MW]

As I said, I have explained my comments clearly, you have asked me about what Tony and 5 times have said as part of your argument. I suggest you bring that up with them not me, after all we arent all a "a collective of 'themmuns' who all share the same brain or something" as you put it.

I've asked you about your comments. When I brought up how a minority treat 'OWCers' and have treated me specifically, you said that we have been "welcome". This is why I pointed you to how others as well as you have treated me - as part of a collective. I don't expect you to answer for their comments, or explain them. However I do think that your comment was on the same lines: "I find it funny how all the NI soccer contigent [referring to myself and one other poster] rush to say it didnt happen, or it probably didnt happen, or that the manager isnt to be believed when they[referring to different individuals are quick to jump on the GAA when something similar happens with Darren Graham". While I don't think you've adequately explained this, at least you've had the courtesy and the backbone to address it, which is more than can be said for Tony and 5ivetimes.

I wont be online for the rest of the day as I have some work to do, you clearly wont accept my explanation of anything, and to be honest I think you are talking a great deal of tripe too, with a few valid points thrown in. So lets just drop this, its page six, every valid point worth making has been made already.

OK.

[MW]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/article2864712.ece

IFA wants answers from Blues boss


The Irish FA have written to Linfield FC and manager David Jeffrey asking for their comments on the public row between the club and Ballymena United over allegations of sectarianism.

Jeffrey has claimed that his team were subjected to abuse from Ballymena fans during Saturday's opening CIS Cup game at Windsor Park.

Ballymena United have hit back at the allegations, claiming them to be " unsubstantiated."

The IFA have advised Linfield that there is a procedure for dealing with such matters under the new Disciplinary Code.

Allegations must be submitted in writing and include all relevant information to substantiate such a claim.

Visiting clubs are liable for the conduct of their own fans and, if the allegations are substantiated, then Ballymena would face a fine of £1,250 and a three point deduction.

Equally, if the allegations do not stand up, then Jeffrey and Linfield face a reprimand.

Ballymena were involved in a sectarian allegation against a Cliftonville player last season, but then asked for the matter to be withdrawn. The Disciplinary Committee dismissed the allegation through lack of evidence.

[MW]

Visiting clubs are liable for the conduct of their own fans and, if the allegations are substantiated, then Ballymena would face a fine of £1,250 and a three point deduction.

I was particularly interested in this bit - not just a fine but a potential points deduction. Which seems to have been introduced this season.

Whatever the facts behind the allegation, Jeffrey has handled this poorly. If a manager thinks his players have suffered sectarian or racial abuse, his first move should be to get his club to report this to the authorities so that proper action can be taken.

[Main Street]

Sounds like a storm in a teacup to me.
An ironic pisstake that is blown out of all proportion.

[Solomon Kane]

Sounds like a storm in a teacup to me.
An ironic pisstake that is blown out of all proportion.

Nail, Hit, Head.

[bennydorano]

Looking forward to Cliftonville V Linfield on Sky tonight , I read in the Irish News that there will be 16 pitchside micophones, any betting on how many times 'black bastard' and 'fenian bastard' will be heard on 'national' tv?

[stiffler]

Surely the attendances at these games don't warrent it being shown on live tv? Will this not mean even less people will attend the game?

[deiseach]

Looking forward to Cliftonville V Linfield on Sky tonight , I read in the Irish News that there will be 16 pitchside micophones

One for every spectator.

Now that I think about it, it might be more fun to point the cameras at the terraces as well.

[his holiness nb]

Whats the standards like these days, would it be worth watching?

[SeanSouth]

Whats the standards like these days, would it be worth watching?

Shite & no.

[ziggysego]

So that's what the Cliftonville ones were creaming themselves about on the news tonight.