Hurling 2026

Started by seafoid, January 04, 2026, 04:15:24 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Podge72

#225
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

9 of the Tipp team who faced Cork Sunday have 2 or more All ireland medals

4 have 3

And 1 has 4

Outside of Limerick no other county has that and yours definitely doesn't

mouview

Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

EoinW

Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2026, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012.  The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.


Podge72

Quote from: EoinW on April 22, 2026, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2026, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012.  The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.



Jesus wept Galway could have won the all ireland as early as 2012

Definitely dark maroon glasses on there

And it will be news to those in Tipp that they played Galway in the 1988 All Ireland Semifinal


Podge72

Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2026, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Galway have won 1 all ireland in the last 38 years

In the same time Tipp have won 7

I think when it comes down to bottle jobs the Tipp crowd are in a better place

Galway won their all ireland in 2017 bet tipp by a point in the semi and were more than lucky to be facing Waterford in a final who are still waiting to win an all ireland since 1959

It would have been a different story if they had been facing one of the traditional powers who know how to win an all ireland final day


seafoid

Quote from: Podge72 on April 22, 2026, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2026, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Galway have won 1 all ireland in the last 38 years

In the same time Tipp have won 7

I think when it comes down to bottle jobs the Tipp crowd are in a better place

Galway won their all ireland in 2017 bet tipp by a point in the semi and were more than lucky to be facing Waterford in a final who are still waiting to win an all ireland since 1959

It would have been a different story if they had been facing one of the traditional powers who know how to win an all ireland final day


Cork don't know how to win a final and haven't won since 2005
Kilkenny were at the beginning of a slump that started the year before after the end of their great team 2006-15
Tipp can't seem to do 2 in a row and had won in 2016. galway beat them in the semi final . The Joe Canning point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adN9lpH3bas

The 2 best teams 2015-17 imo

So I don't know who could have beaten them in 2017

EoinW




[/quote]

Jesus wept Galway could have won the all ireland as early as 2012

Definitely dark maroon glasses on there

And it will be news to those in Tipp that they played Galway in the 1988 All Ireland Semifinal


[/quote]

Oops! 1989.  Rotten keyboard.

Would you believe I was testing you?

seafoid

Quote from: EoinW on April 22, 2026, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2026, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Podge72 on April 21, 2026, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Lamps on April 20, 2026, 10:33:45 AMIt confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.


There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.


Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012. The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.


Galway didn't have the right manager in 2012 and 2015
Kilkenny had the psychological advantage.


marty34

No Gillane for Limerick at the week-end V Cork.

I'm sure Cork will be delighted.

He'll miss Clare game also.

johnnycool

Quote from: marty34 on Today at 07:31:42 AMNo Gillane for Limerick at the week-end V Cork.

I'm sure Cork will be delighted.

He'll miss Clare game also.

Time for the bull to step up. Will Peter Casey start alongside him?

it also might highlight the letting of Séamus Flanagan go, so Kiely must believe he's enough strength to cover those types of roles.

mouview

Casey for Gillane is fairly like-for-like, and won't weaken the team hugely. Of greater concern to Kiely should be the form of O'Connor and O'Brien, both of whom haven't been in great form in recent games. The bookies have it very close, but even with Gillane I'd be leaning towards Cork anyway.

johnnycool

Quote from: mouview on Today at 11:37:55 AMCasey for Gillane is fairly like-for-like, and won't weaken the team hugely. Of greater concern to Kiely should be the form of O'Connor and O'Brien, both of whom haven't been in great form in recent games. The bookies have it very close, but even with Gillane I'd be leaning towards Cork anyway.

Peter Casey doesn't have the physicality of Guillane who the Cork defence just can't cope with.
O'Brien has the physicality, just not the game smarts of Guillane and that's what sets Guillane apart.

Guillane is as cute a forward you will get, with all his flicks etc, but there's also a bit of a dog in him, he'll resort to the dark arts if needs be.
What Guillane is really good at is quickly changing his mind, look how he responds to a defender slipping, super quick to spot the opportunity and go for it. That takes focus, composure and smarts.

His absence may well swing the game Corks way.

How the Cork new boys fare down the other end against O'Donoghue, Hayes and Byrnes will also be intriguing.