Armagh v Derry. Group 4

Started by bennydorano, May 13, 2025, 09:47:30 PM

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lenny

Quote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2025, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 19, 2025, 08:35:52 PMMatch not on TV?

No. If you listen to the many southern media podcasts, you'll quickly realise it's all about Dublin, Galway and Kerry.  All Ireland champs starting the defence of their title at a packed home stadium in what has the makings of a great game, you'd have thought  someone would carry it.

Totally agree, it's a game between the 2024 AI champions and the 2024 league champions. Derry have been in freefall ever since but how it hasn't been picked for tv is staggering.

armaghniac

Quote from: lenny on May 20, 2025, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2025, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 19, 2025, 08:35:52 PMMatch not on TV?

No. If you listen to the many southern media podcasts, you'll quickly realise it's all about Dublin, Galway and Kerry.  All Ireland champs starting the defence of their title at a packed home stadium in what has the makings of a great game, you'd have thought  someone would carry it.

Totally agree, it's a game between the 2024 AI champions and the 2024 league champions. Derry have been in freefall ever since but how it hasn't been picked for tv is staggering.

In the era of GAA+ what exactly is the policy on showing games? There is no real limit on the number that you can show, showing games does not greatly reduce actual attendance (look at the Munster hurling games). Is GAA+ to make money? Is GAA+ to promote the games? Might GAA+ have a role showing games for older people etc who cannot go (it does not seem to have this role)?
Even if it has a role making money then a popular game would bring in money. In these groups people from other counties in a group might watch a game in the group.
They need a coherent plan about what they are at.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

SouthOfThe Bann

Is Derry's position within the top tier in Ulster on the line this weekend.

If they suffer another defeat this weekend would be hard to make a case for them to be within the top 6 in Ulster.

1. Donegal
2. Armagh
3. Tyrone
4. Monaghan
5. Down
6. Cavan
7. Derry
8. Fermnanagh
9. Antrim

Above is the way i'd see it unless Derry can muster something on Saturday.

Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 20, 2025, 10:33:59 AMIs Derry's position within the top tier in Ulster on the line this weekend.

If they suffer another defeat this weekend would be hard to make a case for them to be within the top 6 in Ulster.

1. Donegal
2. Armagh
3. Tyrone
4. Monaghan
5. Down
6. Cavan
7. Derry
8. Fermnanagh
9. Antrim

Above is the way i'd see it unless Derry can muster something on Saturday.
Derry would beat Down and Cavan out the gate.

Mario

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 20, 2025, 10:33:59 AMIs Derry's position within the top tier in Ulster on the line this weekend.

If they suffer another defeat this weekend would be hard to make a case for them to be within the top 6 in Ulster.

1. Donegal
2. Armagh
3. Tyrone
4. Monaghan
5. Down
6. Cavan
7. Derry
8. Fermnanagh
9. Antrim

Above is the way i'd see it unless Derry can muster something on Saturday.
If we aren't beating Armagh at half time there is a case for Antrim to be above us as well.


p3427977

Quote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2025, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 19, 2025, 08:35:52 PMMatch not on TV?

No. If you listen to the many southern media podcasts, you'll quickly realise it's all about Dublin, Galway and Kerry.  All Ireland champs starting the defence of their title at a packed home stadium in what has the makings of a great game, you'd have thought  someone would carry it.
It's a strange call. Only what 4 senior games that weekend? U20 final as well? Sure TG4 covered plenty in the past. Likely not on due to greed.

mouview

Quote from: balladmaker on May 20, 2025, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: RandyDupree on May 19, 2025, 08:35:52 PMMatch not on TV?

No. If you listen to the many southern media podcasts, you'll quickly realise it's all about Dublin, Galway and Kerry.  All Ireland champs starting the defence of their title at a packed home stadium in what has the makings of a great game, you'd have thought  someone would carry it.

Match not even on the Beeb? Maybe RTE / GAA+ not covering it for this reason?

APM

Chances are game was going to be near a sell out anyway - at the very least a very big crowd. Of all the games to choose, there is little logic in not televising it.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2025, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 20, 2025, 10:33:59 AMIs Derry's position within the top tier in Ulster on the line this weekend.

If they suffer another defeat this weekend would be hard to make a case for them to be within the top 6 in Ulster.

1. Donegal
2. Armagh
3. Tyrone
4. Monaghan
5. Down
6. Cavan
7. Derry
8. Fermnanagh
9. Antrim

Above is the way i'd see it unless Derry can muster something on Saturday.
Derry would beat Down and Cavan out the gate.

Only half messing; I reckon they'd beat Cavan by 4 or 5 the way they are now; I'd say they'd struggle over Down if they played them this weekend; Derry needed a game against the likes of a Clare to get the confidence going again.

armaghniac

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Quote from: mouview on May 20, 2025, 11:41:55 AMMatch not even on the Beeb? Maybe RTE / GAA+ not covering it for this reason?
Quote from: APM on May 20, 2025, 11:50:32 AMChances are game was going to be near a sell out anyway - at the very least a very big crowd. Of all the games to choose, there is little logic in not televising it.

The BBC had rights to the Ulster championship, but not to these games. Again there wouldn't have been any flexibility in this, clearly the games on Saturday between Ulster counties would have been of particular interest to them.
Celtic park was not sold out last year, as I recall.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

tbrick18

Maybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?  ;D  ;)

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.

JoG2

Quote from: tbrick18 on May 20, 2025, 12:24:15 PMMaybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?  ;D  ;)

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.


would be gobsmacked if there were any suspensions. While the players throwing the punches (cat IV 2 game suspension) would be known to people, unless footage clearly shows them striking, it'll be dropped imo...four or 5 men piling into a man with his hands held out isn't a good look , but as I say, they'll live to fight in the next round.

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on May 20, 2025, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on May 20, 2025, 12:24:15 PMMaybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?  ;D  ;)

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.


would be gobsmacked if there were any suspensions. While the players throwing the punches (cat IV 2 game suspension) would be known to people, unless footage clearly shows them striking, it'll be dropped imo...four or 5 men piling into a man with his hands held out isn't a good look , but as I say, they'll live to fight in the next round.
Isn't there a rule where they can't used mobile phone footage? Anyway, no way to tell who did what from that video, would expect it to be either a fine or nothing. Derry and Tyrone ones seem to be worried about it

Armamike

The Armagh and Tyrone match not on tv was a strange call as well.


That's just, like your opinion man.

tyrone08

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2025, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 20, 2025, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on May 20, 2025, 12:24:15 PMMaybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?  ;D  ;)

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.


would be gobsmacked if there were any suspensions. While the players throwing the punches (cat IV 2 game suspension) would be known to people, unless footage clearly shows them striking, it'll be dropped imo...four or 5 men piling into a man with his hands held out isn't a good look , but as I say, they'll live to fight in the next round.
Isn't there a rule where they can't used mobile phone footage? Anyway, no way to tell who did what from that video, would expect it to be either a fine or nothing. Derry and Tyrone ones seem to be worried about it

We cant all have the president of the gaa protecting us.