Armagh v Derry. Group 4

[Milltown Row2]

Derry are 4/1. Not a bad price if they are in the right mood after all that time off. Now the real championship starts.

I hear they gave a near full strength Monaghan a hiding last week in a behind closed doors match?

I heard Derry have been unstoppable on the challenge match circuit.

Beat a full strength Longford well too.

The over 40's also hammered Armagh, so 4/1 looks a good price

[illdecide]

I've said this many times over the years and no matter how good or bad Armagh are they always do things the hard way...I'm expecting a very tough game on Sat evening from Derry and this Derry team are not finished by no stretch. 12 months ago people were talking about them winning SAM so for me they'll need Armagh to be at their best to beat them. They've had plenty of time to rest, train, tactics and get injured players back so they'll be very dangerous come Sat nite. Anyone who thinks this is gonna be easy or Derry or just gonna roll over are not right in the head...

[mackers]

The games at the weekend show that the teams that have been training for a few weeks away from the limelight and provincial finals are doing very well in the first round. I'd be very worried about Saturday evening.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

The games at the weekend show that the teams that have been training for a few weeks away from the limelight and provincial finals are doing very well in the first round. I'd be very worried about Saturday evening.

If Derry do manage to beat Armagh the group will be box office. Hard to see it though.

[JoG2]

Ah lads, no point being cute hoors now.. Sure youse have 30+ starting 15 level players and everyone on here has stated we'll not win a game and finish bottom of the group. This is David v Goliath on a football pitch. I'm going just to get out of the house for the day

[armaghniac]

I've said this many times over the years and no matter how good or bad Armagh are they always do things the hard way...I'm expecting a very tough game on Sat evening from Derry and this Derry team are not finished by no stretch. 12 months ago people were talking about them winning SAM so for me they'll need Armagh to be at their best to beat them. They've had plenty of time to rest, train, tactics and get injured players back so they'll be very dangerous come Sat nite. Anyone who thinks this is gonna be easy or Derry or just gonna roll over are not right in the head...

Derry have known that they would be playing one of Donegal or Armagh and will have had a good look at the teams at the Ulster final.
I just hope that recent results remove any sense of complacency, I don't think the talk is of it being easy. In some ways playing the likes of Cavan would have been more dangerous as we would not have seen a big performance coming from them, whereas most people do expect it from Derry. 

The current forecast is rain on Saturday evening, this would be a pity after such good weather.

[illdecide]

Ah lads, no point being cute hoors now.. Sure youse have 30+ starting 15 level players and everyone on here has stated we'll not win a game and finish bottom of the group. This is David v Goliath on a football pitch. I'm going just to get out of the house for the day

No one is TBH, this will be a tight hard match that could go either way. In a way Derry have nothing to lose as they're expected to lose (except within Derry) so they have a free shot and they didn't become a bad team over night...

[tbrick18]

Yous Armagh lads are a good laugh I'll give yous that!
For about 3 years yous have been boasting about how strong the panel is, that yous have 2 maybe 3 first teams sitting on the bench.
You've now won an AI.
Some of the same posters would have scoffed at Derry's AI aspirations, even after 2 Ulsters and a near miss in an AISF, as we don't have the forwards or the depth and our injury crisis over the last year along with the managerial merry-go-round has backed yous up in that thinking.
Now all of a sudden, Derry are going to put it up to yous? 

Derry are still missing at least 2 of their of their best defensive players in McKinless and McCloskey with support players like Gilmore out for the year.
We're missing our first choice keeper with no obvious backup.
Glass was playing injured against Donegal last day out.
Murray, Loughlin, Rogers, McGrogan all returning from serious or long term injuries.

If Armagh don't win they may give up!

[seanyb]

Yous Armagh lads are a good laugh I'll give yous that!
For about 3 years yous have been boasting about how strong the panel is, that yous have 2 maybe 3 first teams sitting on the bench.
You've now won an AI.
Some of the same posters would have scoffed at Derry's AI aspirations, even after 2 Ulsters and a near miss in an AISF, as we don't have the forwards or the depth and our injury crisis over the last year along with the managerial merry-go-round has backed yous up in that thinking.
Now all of a sudden, Derry are going to put it up to yous? 

Derry are still missing at least 2 of their of their best defensive players in McKinless and McCloskey with support players like Gilmore out for the year.
We're missing our first choice keeper with no obvious backup.
Glass was playing injured against Donegal last day out.
Murray, Loughlin, Rogers, McGrogan all returning from serious or long term injuries.

If Armagh don't win they may give up!

Is Lynch not fully fit & has played in the challenge games?

[Keyser soze]

Ah lads, no point being cute hoors now.. Sure youse have 30+ starting 15 level players and everyone on here has stated we'll not win a game and finish bottom of the group. This is David v Goliath on a football pitch. I'm going just to get out of the house for the day

No one is TBH, this will be a tight hard match that could go either way. In a way Derry have nothing to lose as they're expected to lose (except within Derry) so they have a free shot and they didn't become a bad team over night...

Eh... yes they did.

[naka]

hurson is the ref for this one
if either side has designs on going far this is a must win game otherwise it will be a short summer.
would like to see grimley start in the middle of the park for armagh
like others was shocked at how flat both galway amd mayo were last weekend so its essential Armagh are up for the fight

[Captain Obvious]

Derry are 4/1. Not a bad price if they are in the right mood after all that time off. Now the real championship starts.

I hear they gave a near full strength Monaghan a hiding last week in a behind closed doors match?

All talk about Derrys recent form alright, have finally adjusted to the new rules and absolutely flying it.  Hurson in charge makes this game a bit of lottery also.

[oakleaflad]

Derry are 4/1. Not a bad price if they are in the right mood after all that time off. Now the real championship starts.

I hear they gave a near full strength Monaghan a hiding last week in a behind closed doors match?

All talk about Derrys recent form alright, have finally adjusted to the new rules and absolutely flying it.  Hurson in charge makes this game a bit of lottery also.

Not sure being cute suits you boys 

Sure did Cork not beat us by 10 in a recent challenge game?

Expect Armagh to win by a similar margin.

[JoG2]

Derry are 4/1. Not a bad price if they are in the right mood after all that time off. Now the real championship starts.

I hear they gave a near full strength Monaghan a hiding last week in a behind closed doors match?

All talk about Derrys recent form alright, have finally adjusted to the new rules and absolutely flying it.  Hurson in charge makes this game a bit of lottery also.

Not sure being cute suits you boys 

Sure did Cork not beat us by 10 in a recent challenge game?

Expect Armagh to win by a similar margin.

that's what the white smoke was @ Owenbeg, confirmation we've "finally adjusted to the new rules"...4/1 somebody said, Derry's to lose?? Might stay in the Armagh City Hotel on Sat night

[statto]

Yous Armagh lads are a good laugh I'll give yous that!
For about 3 years yous have been boasting about how strong the panel is, that yous have 2 maybe 3 first teams sitting on the bench.
You've now won an AI.
Some of the same posters would have scoffed at Derry's AI aspirations, even after 2 Ulsters and a near miss in an AISF, as we don't have the forwards or the depth and our injury crisis over the last year along with the managerial merry-go-round has backed yous up in that thinking.
Now all of a sudden, Derry are going to put it up to yous? 

Derry are still missing at least 2 of their of their best defensive players in McKinless and McCloskey with support players like Gilmore out for the year.
We're missing our first choice keeper with no obvious backup.
Glass was playing injured against Donegal last day out.
Murray, Loughlin, Rogers, McGrogan all returning from serious or long term injuries.

If Armagh don't win they may give up!

Don't think anyone said Armagh had had 2/3 first teams sitting on the bench?  Plenty of Armagh posters would have said that they had alot of players of same ability from 16-30 which I believe is the case, something which Derry have not been able to achieve despite always being strong at underage consistently. 

Is McKinless not the obvious back up now that the outfield player in goal wasn't fruitful in the league?