Man Utd Thread:

[RedHand88]

Please let it be Roy Keane. Please.

Infact it should be. He knows the club, MUFC is in his DNA etc etc

[Substandard]

I'd say been 2 or 3 years since I first said Bruno is both United's most talented player but also the cause of most of their problems, you can never be a 'system' team with a flakey skitehead like him as the fulcrum.

Agreed.  Any serious club needs to have a squad where every/ the vast majority of players are at least 8/10 ability-wise, and their consistency is at that level too.  At United the last long number of years, too many players think that one 8/10 performance gives them a bye for the next 3-5 games.

[Joeythelips]

Please let it be Roy Keane. Please.

Infact it should be. He knows the club, MUFC is in his DNA etc etc

WTF? Roy Keane? What is he going to do go in an kick off an rant every week? United are a basket case currently. To be honest I doubt he would be stupid enough to go there anyway, the rate the club is chewing up and spitting out managers and players it is clearly toxic.

I see they are looking at Graham Potter which tells you where they are, they don't want to payoff Amorim if they sack him and if they do they won't have to pay compensation to a club for a free agent like Potter.

The absolute state of the club.

[tiempo]

I think the current state of play, flirting with relegation and unwilling to sack a manager due to cost is officially a worse position than Liverpool ever found themselves during their drought

Ruben is managing a better team that Roy Hodgson had and is perfuming considerably worse

At the equivalent point of the Liverpool drought they won a treble and finished second in the league

Ba humbug

[brokencrossbar1]

I think the current state of play, flirting with relegation and unwilling to sack a manager due to cost is officially a worse position than Liverpool ever found themselves during their drought

Ruben is managing a better team that Roy Hodgson had and is perfuming considerably worse

At the equivalent point of the Liverpool drought they won a treble and finished second in the league

Ba humbug

Yeah his teams stink....

He will get a result against Liverpool to save his job,  wait and see!

[AustinPowers]

Roy no where near it, his history is not anywhere near good enough.

Not sure where the other two would be, managing a country side is a lot different to day to day managing in the EPL.

Ruben Amorim is the Pep Guardiola of Graham Taylors, all 3 would be an upgrade

In terms of Garth and Joachim, both are highly respected, thats a huge tick in the box, one game a week shouldn't be beyond them

They would be more Ralf type stop gaps to stabilise and create something of a platform for the next man and for the club to firm up a strategy that holds water regardless who is in charge i.e. style of play and squad blend

Right now they need to figure out what their best team is and stave off relegation

I can't help but think the return of CR7 was the catalyst for all this

I was thinking  about that recently. Everything  did seem  to go tits up when he came back  , but  he's gone 3 years so  he can't be the  sole reason  for three years of  absolute dross.

[tiempo]

Ironically the one thing that formation lends itself to is sitting deep and playing on the break, which could produce a result in that specific fixture

Jes you have to laugh at the tv pundits, Neville pontificating and offering answers to the guts of everything having been Roy Hodgsons failed assistant at England where they had Harry Kane taking corners, and an absolutely unmitigated disaster at Valencia, I mean it was this time last year Nev said Utd should go to a back 3 as the squad would suit that formation, there's wiser eating grass

[tiempo]

I was thinking  about that recently. Everything  did seem  to go tits up when he came back  , but  he's gone 3 years so  he can't be the  sole reason  for three years of  absolute dross.

Wrong man wrong place wrong time, Ole wasn't doing a bad job and might have been on to something

The way he behaved and the exit just about set the scene for Rashford and others to take massive liberties

[Milltown Row2]

Anyone that is looking Keane to take the reigns is a WUM, period, or in football terms is stupid.

So please, stop the P1 level trolling on it

Utd isn't going to be 'fixed' by a knight galloping in on a big horse. The problem runs deeper that the aspects of current set up. Its like the 80's all over again, few star players and some pure muck to stick it together.

Utd is too big a club to go down, though the current team and management are trying, but generally there will be worse teams to save their bacon. History will show that teams have these periods and like most cycles it will come back to competitiveness and winning again.

It took 26 years or so to achieve the league again and as things stand it may have to go through that again before things turn. The good times were good and the bad times are just that, bad.

Social media has produced urgency and that in itself can be more damaging

Fergie got rid of a core of top players at the time and it eventually worked.. Utd need to find the new type of Fergie for todays game, as old school management is long gone, and Keane would be of that elk, his style would not last a week

[Armagh18]

Bruno needs dropped. His attitude stinks and those penalties were pathetic. He simply doesn't have good enough wing backs, Dorgu is a good lad but he's young and raw, Shaw is finished and should have been sold about 3 years ago. How Yoro and De Ligt aren't 2 of your centre backs and then build around that I don't know. Mazaouri a good player but his injury record getting worrying and probably doesn't have the attacking ability for that role. Diallo is talented but hasn't been good either. That goalkeeper needs dropped, complete calamity, yes made a few good saves but at fault for 2 of the goals the other day. Stick Mainoo and Ugarte in midfield, Yoro and De Ligt at centre back and watch things pick up.

Nearly every goal has been down to shite individuals errors, but the manager doesn't have a whole lot of choice, but with the players they have they should be a top 6-8 team, obviously miles off City/Liverpool yet and it'll take another few transfer windows to sort that. I just hope he gets the chance to sort it.

Bayindir, Shaw, Dalot, Casemiro, Bruno, Maguire all need to leave, Mount and Martinez serious questions over given their injury records and still a goalkeeper, 2 midfielders and probably 2 wing backs are needed.

As a long time sufferer of Spurs and their ever changing management policy, it's become pretty clear to me that when players are invested in a manager, they make much fewer individual errors.

Their concentration levels correlate directly with their interest levels.

If they aren't bought in- get them the f**k out. Been through enough managers at this stage.

[Armagh18]

Roy no where near it, his history is not anywhere near good enough.

Not sure where the other two would be, managing a country side is a lot different to day to day managing in the EPL.

Ruben Amorim is the Pep Guardiola of Graham Taylors, all 3 would be an upgrade

In terms of Garth and Joachim, both are highly respected, thats a huge tick in the box, one game a week shouldn't be beyond them

They would be more Ralf type stop gaps to stabilise and create something of a platform for the next man and for the club to firm up a strategy that holds water regardless who is in charge i.e. style of play and squad blend

Right now they need to figure out what their best team is and stave off relegation

I can't help but think the return of CR7 was the catalyst for all this

I was thinking  about that recently. Everything  did seem  to go tits up when he came back  , but  he's gone 3 years so  he can't be the  sole reason  for three years of  absolute dross.

The day the players were allowed to get Mourinho sacked was the turning point for me. At least Ronaldo had the balls to call out the problems.

[tiempo]

He was an oul ballix too though, very negative, wasn't going to do much medium term, living in a hotel the whole time ffs, was his heart really in it

I don't get the clamour for Glasner, Iraola, Potter type candidates - flash in the pan men

Where's the class of 92 when you need them?

[Armagh18]

He was an oul ballix too though, very negative, wasn't going to do much medium term, living in a hotel the whole time ffs, was his heart really in it

I don't get the clamour for Glasner, Iraola, Potter type candidates - flash in the pan men

Where's the class of 92 when you need them?

He was but the minute you let player power decide to down tools and get a manager sacked you're on a slippery slope.

There's no easy or quick fix here. Wish Rangnick was involved in some respect at the club, he'd the balls to tell it how it is and obviously had an eye for a player.

[tiempo]

Here's half the problem at Utd, no one wants to listen or collaborate for the greater good, the club is such a cash cow that enrichment seems a primary focus, on-field greatness is secondary. Blasting Dan Ashworth out the door having called him 'best in class' and paid severance for him was insane, and getting rid of someone with consultant level knowledge like Sir Ralf was a total shambles

Any chance the local fans (creatures) riot to get the Liverpool game off to avoid a beating similar to last time? They could always blockade the bus in Manchester, preventing them getting to Anfield?

[statto]

He was an oul ballix too though, very negative, wasn't going to do much medium term, living in a hotel the whole time ffs, was his heart really in it

I don't get the clamour for Glasner, Iraola, Potter type candidates - flash in the pan men

Where's the class of 92 when you need them?

You not be seeing Potter in the Premier League for a while if again. As someone said recently the real success story at Brighton is Tony Bloom as Brighton have continued to be a solid Premier League side long after Potter's departure.