Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Always great to read the shite on here after a defeat you'd think we are a regular all.ireland winner going by some youns fuckwits

That's fair if you believe we don't have the players to be challenging the top teams in the country. I think we probably do but we need to be a bit more adventurous than we've been recently. Are you happy with our style of play?

Your post not the worst until the last bit. You want a full clear out. Tell me who you're bringing in

When things are going well we are a competitive county nothing more nothing less. Our style of play is effective to a certain level yes. We don't play much off the cuff football. We are where we are

[Wildweasel74]

We are where we are? We still trying play the same way fball was 2yrs ago, fball moved on, we havent.

[OakLeaf]

Your post not the worst until the last bit. You want a full clear out. Tell me who you're bringing in

When things are going well we are a competitive county nothing more nothing less. Our style of play is effective to a certain level yes. We don't play much off the cuff football. We are where we are

Definitely not bringing you in lad. You dont set your ceiling very high.

Im sure there are plenty of managers out there that could play more progressive football. We could build a team with Deets and a few others. The point is that we have a lot of talented footballers now, and more coming through; my frustration is that I can see us wasting their chances if things continue as they are.

And, I'm not young either. Played MacRory football at Maghera in the mid 80s, so no spring chicken 😀

[Ball]

Firstly fair play to the hurlers finally getting over the line in the christy ring. Great performance today and great to see for the men that have stuck at it through more bad days than good as cormac said.

Is this likely to entice more to commit again for next year?


On the football, we look like a group that have lost all confidence, most noticeable in shane and ethan and looks like its going further through the team.

Weve needed new blood for a while, ruairi forbes has been a find this year but thats been it. Dan higgins injured most of the year, patrick mcgurk played a bit last year hasnt pushed on. Sean kearney preferred one day then sean young the next. Mathew downey looked like he was back during the league now gone/injured again.

Weve failed to bridge the gap between u20 and senior

[Red10]

The players really need to stand up now. The last few years they have wanted RG or Meenagh back. Some need to show some real leadership. Armagh didnt get out of 2nd gear but neither did we. The shooting was abysmal. Some easy easy scores passed up. Loughlin and McGuigan in the first 10 minutes passed up 1-1 between them and we got zero from those attacks. Kick outs were poor and we barely got any away clean the whole game.

Some real questions need asked now. What do we want to be? The 2020's nearly men who threw it all away or is there something in this team that when it clicks we can be one of the top teams in the country. Confidence looks shot again. Time for Meenagh to really show what's the about.

Yeah they can't blame the management again. Although you'd have to question the authority Meenagh has when you see  the performances of some. Also the distactions of the nonsense social media stuff players have been putting up the last while. You can't see the Donegal or Armagh management tolerating it in a run up to a big game. Derry have become a laughing stock in those counties.

Seen this mentioned before whats the social media stuff and who you on about? Hopefully you dont mean lads promoting their business ventures?

No not that. Fellas have a right to earn a living. Other shite.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry barely blooded any new players during the league, 5-15mins here and there. Young Sargent comes on the nite but what that say to other lads training all yr and barely tried. Didnt see the goal to i got home but theres no way that should found the net. Derry stood of Armagh in the tackle and on the couple good breaks they got, they hadnt the speed to complete a score. They miles off what they were 3/4yrs ago.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Your post not the worst until the last bit. You want a full clear out. Tell me who you're bringing in

When things are going well we are a competitive county nothing more nothing less. Our style of play is effective to a certain level yes. We don't play much off the cuff football. We are where we are

Definitely not bringing you in lad. You dont set your ceiling very high.

Im sure there are plenty of managers out there that could play more progressive football. We could build a team with Deets and a few others. The point is that we have a lot of talented footballers now, and more coming through; my frustration is that I can see us wasting their chances if things continue as they are.

And, I'm not young either. Played MacRory football at Maghera in the mid 80s, so no spring chicken 😀

Ah you played mccrory. I apologize 😄

If there's plenty of managers list them lol
It's not that i don't set the ceiling v high I'm just maybe more realistic than some. We've some fine footballers but are they any better than what Donegal Armagh have? Without going further south? We got to two semis couple years back that was great but maybe that was the peak rather than automatically grabbing ourselves an AI
Agree we could play more expansive football all through the age groups

Just boils my piss that ones think we've a divine right to beating the likes of these  teams, at the minute Armagh and Donegal the main contenders and we've just been beat by one

[OakLeaf]

Just boils my piss that ones think we've a divine right to beating the likes of these  teams, at the minute Armagh and Donegal the main contenders and we've just been beat by one

We definitely don't have a devine right to be beating anybody, but jesus we should be a lot better than we've shown this past couple of games. Were not at Armagh or Donegals level this year but this squad is capable to giving either of those two a decent game. The reality is that game this evening could easily have been a 10 to 15 point defeat. Were definitely more capable than that.

[JoG2]

Derry barely blooded any new players during the league, 5-15mins here and there. Young Sargent comes on the nite but what that say to other lads training all yr and barely tried. Didnt see the goal to i got home but theres no way that should found the net. Derry stood of Armagh in the tackle and on the couple good breaks they got, they hadnt the speed to complete a score. They miles off what they were 3/4yrs ago.

The same young Sargent who has battled back from an ACL and has trained with the panel for months, waiting for the extended sign off to play with a lesser chance of a repeat injury? Has put in probably more hours than anyone else rehabbing to get ready to get mins for our senior County team?

A disappointing night, time catches up with us all and it seems to have cast its shadow on a few of our regular big hitters who have put in serious work over the past 7/8 years, through some serious lows and highs.
Not sure how the rest of this season will play out tbh, but a plum home tie starting a few younger men, introducing a few older heads, with a win would lift the mood 🥳

[JoG2]

Just boils my piss that ones think we've a divine right to beating the likes of these  teams, at the minute Armagh and Donegal the main contenders and we've just been beat by one

We definitely don't have a devine right to be beating anybody, but jesus we should be a lot better than we've shown this past couple of games. Were not at Armagh or Donegals level this year but this squad is capable to giving either of those two a decent game. The reality is that game this evening could easily have been a 10 to 15 point defeat. Were definitely more capable than that.

In another reality, we could have went in level, against the wind if we'd taken our chances. Wind in the 2nd half was, maybe like our play at times, all over the show. Confidence, even with players who have had success is a fickle thing, and in front of a very partisan crowd , amplified.

[Topmarks]

We don't have a define right to beat anyone at this point. But I would hope after 4 weeks we could put together a performance to really challenge for a win. We are no minnows with most of that team with Ulster and Div 1 medals, but we look a team that has maybe peaked and are now going in the other direction. Did we really fire a shot at Armagh tonight, were they ever really rattled and think the win was in doubt? I don't think so.

To be fair to Meenagh it is natural that in his first year back he would look to the boys that had success with him previously, but in the cold light of day a fair few of them are not playing at the same level. Here's hoping for a home draw and a big game or two before the season is over because I think that's the best we can hope for this year.

[Wildweasel74]

You have to expect Derry to show championship intensity they dont, theres no excuse for that. Thats why Monaghan made up a 11pt difference. Monaghan showed plenty of intensity in the Ulster final against Armagh, what we bring the nite? In the first 2 mins McGuigan through on goal with a player ahead in a even better position. He kicked it high and wide from less than 20m out.

[Interstellar]

Squad development has suffered due to the turnover of managers over the last 3 years. Every new man in was looking for quick success and not willing to take a risk bringing younger players in. Whoever the manager is they'll need time to rebuild this team as the current version is past its sell buy date and so are the tactics.

Regarding being a top team I would say the talent is there. Ask anyone outside the county and they would say Derry are the perennial underachievers.

[Wildweasel74]

Did anybody watch the minors last nite? Derry U20 v Tyrone, all the Derry teams are playing the same way. Then go watch Kerry, Galway, Armagh, Donegal and even Roscommon. None of these teams play like this. All use quick counter acts. And actually kick the ball. Donegal play a simlar handpassing game but are fast on the counterattack and got alot of power around midfield too.

[Topmarks]

Did anybody watch the minors last nite? Derry U20 v Tyrone, all the Derry teams are playing the same way. Then go watch Kerry, Galway, Armagh, Donegal and even Roscommon. None of these teams play like this. All use quick counter acts. And actually kick the ball. Donegal play a simlar handpassing game but are fast on the counterattack and got alot of power around midfield too.

I agree and it's a brutal watch. The new rules reward attacking teams and we haven't adapted at all.

We did play like this when we won our Ulsters but with a few caveats, we were full throttle, pace on every line, had an edge to our game, less miles on the clock and played with a belief and confidence that we were a top team.

I read we had a 30% success rate in the first half from our shots on goal. So with all of our slow sideways hand passing we still created chances and a fair few of them were handy enough. The best tactic is still putting scores on the board and if we don't have boys to do that we won't go much further.