Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Brendan]

Good job there's a back door...Armagh might be still on the beer after winning Ulster to help us

[screenexile]

I'm still absolutely seething about the other night but if the players have anything about them they'll be targeting a statement win against the Ulster Champions!!

[Mario]

Big underdogs but Armagh are beatable. A bad Tyrone team should have beat them. Some boost if we got a win.

[CookieMonster]

I'm still absolutely seething about the other night but if the players have anything about them they'll be targeting a statement win against the Ulster Champions!!

Don't be writing Monaghan off 😂 maybe it's just how impressive they were yesterday but it's hard to see how we'll match them. They're definitely in with a shout for Sam. We'll be going in as underdogs which seems to suit us a bit better. I'll be there anyway, we need a big turnout in support.

[doh827]

Am I right in thinking that the stand in the athletic grounds in reserved for armagh season tickets?

[Wildweasel74]

There wasnt many Derry people there for last yrs qualfier.

[Interstellar]

If we had beaten Monaghan even in extra-time and were now in the Ulster Final would people still be giving us no chance against Armagh in that final? I think not. The game now against Armagh has to be redemption time for this team otherwise big changes required for next year.

[toby47]

If we had beaten Monaghan even in extra-time and were now in the Ulster Final would people still be giving us no chance against Armagh in that final? I think not. The game now against Armagh has to be redemption time for this team otherwise big changes required for next year.

What big changes would you suggest?

[Interstellar]

If we had beaten Monaghan even in extra-time and were now in the Ulster Final would people still be giving us no chance against Armagh in that final? I think not. The game now against Armagh has to be redemption time for this team otherwise big changes required for next year.

What big changes would you suggest?

Well we were supposed to have one of the best midfields and we broke that up. We had MeEvoy at fullback and we took him out. I would go back to that in the short term plus better use of subs. The new rules mean that starting 15 won't finish the game. Longer term the squad needs a reboot with newer lads getting a fair chance of playing.

[marty34]

I think the bench is an interesting subject. As I said before, if I was on bench and lads who were taken off, and were clearly wrecked, then I wouldn't be too impressed. We're into the business end of things now and clearly the management collectively don't fancy/trust them. That's an issue for me. If you name your 26 panel and you don't trust about 8 of them to throw them in when players are gassed and new energy is needed, then there's clearly an issue there.


Another thing on the bench is there's lads on the bench, and who have been on it for 6 or 7 years, who clearly haven't progressed. They get the odd cameo in league and 5 mins in championship but have not pushed on as expected. 


Everybody knows Derry's starting 15 but there's no competition for places as far as I can see and this isn't good for Derry. You need strong competition for places and some panel members seem to be happy on the bench and being on the county panel and what goes with that. Maybe I'm wrong?


But Derry need to build a competitve panel of about 20 players who push each other one and push each other for places. As I say, maybe I'm well off the mark but just looking at other counties and their competition for places.     

[ONEDerry]

The management have brought in lads who dropped out of the panel after a few weeks and at the same time left out others from last years squad. The overall depth has been left light and it has come back to bite in a Championship game. There's always going to be a group that will get limited game time but the lack of loyalty and development of players outside a small group is now showing up. They even show this by the subbing of a player they brought on. A throw back to previous years. Not things top management teams do who want to keep a tight group of men working in the same direction.

[Derry Optimist]

If Derry are to prove themselves worthy of developing into a top class team,they have to be at least  very competitive against a side  of the calibre of  Armagh, whether it is in an Ulster final(which  should have been the case only for reasons already given by many others  but all of which can be easily rectified) or in the first round of the All Ireland series which it now is.

I have no doubt that the management and players have the undoubted capacity and skill levels  to do this and if they do not beat Armagh they definitely have the innate ability and determination to beat any of the other sides in a projected losers group with the possible exception of the losers of the Kerry/Donegal game.

Why do I think that? Anyone who saw last Saturday's game in person,saw how Derry harried their opponents  and fought back with powerful determination and no little skill when things started to go against them. It was their inability to cope with the unfairness of the two pointers system which beat them. This shortcoming can be worked
on with  much better results I feel and they have three weeks to do so. If that happens, this special group of very talented players can bring themselves and us all many happier days.

[screenexile]

If Derry are to prove themselves worthy of developing into a top class team,they have to be at least  very competitive against a side  of the calibre of  Armagh, whether it is in an Ulster final(which  should have been the case only for reasons already given by many others  but all of which can be easily rectified) or in the first round of the All Ireland series which it now is.

I have no doubt that the management and players have the undoubted capacity and skill levels  to do this and if they do not beat Armagh they definitely have the innate ability and determination to beat any of the other sides in a projected losers group with the possible exception of the losers of the Kerry/Donegal game.

Why do I think that? Anyone who saw last Saturday's game in person,saw how Derry harried their opponents  and fought back with powerful determination and no little skill when things started to go against them. It was their inability to cope with the unfairness of the two pointers system which beat them. This shortcoming can be worked
on with  much better results I feel and they have three weeks to do so. If that happens, this special group of very talented players can bring themselves and us all many happier days.

I think this has to the worst post I've ever seen on the Derry GAA thread... and I've been on here for 20 years!!!

"The unfairness of the 2 pointers system"

Jesus wept 🤦

[p3427977]

If Derry are to prove themselves worthy of developing into a top class team,they have to be at least  very competitive against a side  of the calibre of  Armagh, whether it is in an Ulster final(which  should have been the case only for reasons already given by many others  but all of which can be easily rectified) or in the first round of the All Ireland series which it now is.

I have no doubt that the management and players have the undoubted capacity and skill levels  to do this and if they do not beat Armagh they definitely have the innate ability and determination to beat any of the other sides in a projected losers group with the possible exception of the losers of the Kerry/Donegal game.

Why do I think that? Anyone who saw last Saturday's game in person,saw how Derry harried their opponents  and fought back with powerful determination and no little skill when things started to go against them. It was their inability to cope with the unfairness of the two pointers system which beat them. This shortcoming can be worked
on with  much better results I feel and they have three weeks to do so. If that happens, this special group of very talented players can bring themselves and us all many happier days.

I'll have some of what you're on.

[Derry Optimist]

 To possibly pacify my good friend "Screenexiles" indignation, may I clarify that I always agreed with the introduction of the two pointer system to encourage long distance scoring from open play but I disagree with it for a free outside the arc. I think that it is too severe a penalty when the reward for a goal is still only  three points(and Derry got three of them on Saturday after great combination play by several players). We do not want our games to be decided exclusively by two pointers from frees.