Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[marty34]

Finn Mc Eldowney should be on the senior team. Pace, energy and makes great decisions on the ball.

Good player. Too small for county senior though.

Lol. Have you every watched him play?

Did you see him for for SN in the Ulster Club last year? Go and watch him V Cushendall and Portaferry and tell me, in physical terms, that he's too small.

Ridiculous statement.

[harryR]

Personally team I would go with.

                 Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
         Toner,   Mc Guigan,   Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

We already call them that

I wonder why 3 or 4 different managers with the last 3 being outsiders still haven't found this talent thats hiding in North Derry?

Why has the Derry SFC championship only been won 3 times in 35 years by North Derry clubs 2 of which were by Dungiven.

Is that directly linked to talent availablity?

Coleraine have won two since 2010 and they're a north Derry team

[ardtole]

I was hoping to see him line out for Derry hurlers this year. I didn't see his name mentioned anytime I checked. Do many of the Slaughtneil team play for Derry?

I was thinking that the club might encourage as many as possible to play county and as a plus, expose more of them to more competitive games on more regular basis.

[Derry Man]

I was hoping to see him line out for Derry hurlers this year. I didn't see his name mentioned anytime I checked. Do many of the Slaughtneil team play for Derry?

I was thinking that the club might encourage as many as possible to play county and as a plus, expose more of them to more competitive games on more regular basis.

9 or 10 on the panel I think, McEldowney is still playing U20 football so probably the reason he's not playing county hurling

[marty34]

Personally team I would go with.

                Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
        Toner,  Mc Guigan,  Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

We already call them that

I wonder why 3 or 4 different managers with the last 3 being outsiders still haven't found this talent thats hiding in North Derry?

Why has the Derry SFC championship only been won 3 times in 35 years by North Derry clubs 2 of which were by Dungiven.

Is that directly linked to talent availablity?

For want of  better word, north Derry is almost a 'wastleland' in football terms. I'm not using that word in a derogatory way.  The culture just isn't there. There's plenty of clubs there who are doing great work and have great facilities etc. Great people but the culture just isn't there went compared with south Derry.

That's in comparsion to south Derry where the gaa culture is rampant.  Maybe that's to do with it being a big nationalist area and the GAA is embedded in everything they do, between clubs and schools etc.  Historically that's the way it's always been. So in a way, it's a traditional thing also.

Derry City is a huge untapped area for the gaa. Again, great people putting in huge work against the grain.

If Derry could get a few real good players from north Derry, it'd be some boost. I don't know north Derry players well enough to comment.   

[Ryan O]

Personally team I would go with.

                 Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
         Toner,   Mc Guigan,   Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

We already call them that

I wonder why 3 or 4 different managers with the last 3 being outsiders still haven't found this talent thats hiding in North Derry?

Why has the Derry SFC championship only been won 3 times in 35 years by North Derry clubs 2 of which were by Dungiven.

Is that directly linked to talent availablity?

Coleraine have won two since 2010 and they're a north Derry team

I stand corrected but 5 in 35 years by 3 different clubs is still poor

[Wildweasel74]

It's ok saying the culture not there, but again steady number of North Derry lads be on minor and U20 Teams, so the problems the bridge between U20 and senior, and possible good players not playing for a strong club, or lower leagues, and just falling to them levels

[marty34]

It's ok saying the culture not there, but again steady number of Nortb Derry lads be on minor and U20 Teams so the problem the bridge between U20 and senior and possible good players not playing for a strong club, or lower leagues, and just falling to them levels

But that is the culture - that's what I'm saying.

[ONEDerry]

Some nonsense talked on here. When Derry don't do well it's now all down to North Derry not contributing. Yet some are quick to call certain players out basically because of where they are from while not mentioning others.All this chat of club culture. Good players are good players. Donegal have a few players from Junior and Intermediate who do well. Same with Armagh. Is their 'culture' different from north Derry clubs. Fellas are obviously in on merit and made to feel part of it irrespective of club or grade.

[Derry Man]

Some nonsense talked on here. When Derry don't do well it's now all down to North Derry not contributing. Yet some are quick to call certain players out basically because of where they are from while not mentioning others.All this chat of club culture. Good players are good players. Donegal have a few players from Junior and Intermediate who do well. Same with Armagh. Is their 'culture' different from north Derry clubs. Fellas are obviously in on merit and made to feel part of it irrespective of club or grade.

The nonsense started by someone calling the team South Derry... the best players in the county are on the panel. If you know of intermediate or junior players in Derry who are as good as Jason McGee or Peadar Mogan that aren't on the panel be sure to let Paddy Tally know

[Brendan]

Personally team I would go with.

                 Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
         Toner,   Mc Guigan,   Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

We already call them that

I wonder why 3 or 4 different managers with the last 3 being outsiders still haven't found this talent thats hiding in North Derry?

Why has the Derry SFC championship only been won 3 times in 35 years by North Derry clubs 2 of which were by Dungiven.

Is that directly linked to talent availablity?

I agree as I've pointed out in an earlier post, it's still just funny to call the team South Derry and you can see why by the reaction 

[toby47]

Personally team I would go with.

                 Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
         Toner,   Mc Guigan,   Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

Have you anyone to suggest that I have missed? Perhaps from North Derry.

Think Gilmore would start if fit. Is McNicholl an option in the half forward line if the experiment as keeper has ended? Looks useful outfield but I haven't seen enough of him with glenullin.

Nope.

[oakleaflad]

Personally team I would go with.

                 Lynch
        Bradley, McEvoy, P Mc Grogan
          CD ,  Mc Faul, CMc Grogan/Cassidy
              Glass, Rogers
        Ethan,  Loughlin,  Paul Cass
         Toner,   Mc Guigan,   Murray

Couple lads there obviously only coming back to full fitness but long term and with no McKinless I think we need someone who organises middle if that defence along with giving Rogers more freedom.
Niall Loughlin will work his heart out in CHF with Murphy, Jody Mc D, Baker subs that are capable of doing a job. Anton tohill to full forward when needed towards end of any game has potential to change tactics.

Shall we just call the team South Derry from now on? 😃

We already call them that

I wonder why 3 or 4 different managers with the last 3 being outsiders still haven't found this talent thats hiding in North Derry?

Why has the Derry SFC championship only been won 3 times in 35 years by North Derry clubs 2 of which were by Dungiven.

Is that directly linked to talent availablity?

I agree as I've pointed out in an earlier post, it's still just funny to call the team South Derry and you can see why by the reaction 

It's not though

[harryR]

Some nonsense talked on here. When Derry don't do well it's now all down to North Derry not contributing. Yet some are quick to call certain players out basically because of where they are from while not mentioning others.All this chat of club culture. Good players are good players. Donegal have a few players from Junior and Intermediate who do well. Same with Armagh. Is their 'culture' different from north Derry clubs. Fellas are obviously in on merit and made to feel part of it irrespective of club or grade.

The nonsense started by someone calling the team South Derry... the best players in the county are on the panel. If you know of intermediate or junior players in Derry who are as good as Jason McGee or Peadar Mogan that aren't on the panel be sure to let Paddy Tally know

The problem is that alot of the best players in North Derry are the wrong side of 30, even some pushing 40. Players like Kevin Johnson, Sean Leo, Forrester, Skinner etc. These players are all key players to their teams. However there is players, with the right coaching and environment who could potentially push on and help the county side. Players like moore from banagher, McMullen + Mooney from Coleraine, Ryan mcnicholl from glenullan. There is loads of good underage footballers coming through in Faughenvale. The players the county are missing are like Liam McGoldrick, Conor Murphy, Gavin O'Neill who would all be the perfect age that they could help the senior panel.

[OakleafCounty]

Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry are examples of Counties that can find and develop talent into Senior County players from Intermediate and Junior clubs. Derry have always failed to bring these players from Minor through to Senior with Murray being an exception.
Look at the All-Ireland winning minor team in 2002. There were starters from a wide range of clubs including Craigbane, Drumsurn and Steelstown who were then a Junior club but it was only really the St. Pats and St. Mary's boys who graduated through.
Kerry's system of having divisional teams competing in the Senior Championship seems to work well while Tyrone do really well in developing players from the non traditional areas like Cathal McShane, Brian Dooher and Paschal McConnell.
Paddy Cunningham who was a very good player for the Antrim Seniors and won a Sigerson Cup originally was from the Waterside and played underage for Ardmore. I don't think he would have been given a sniff of County Football if he had stayed in Derry.