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Mario

Up against it now but it could easily have been 2 wins even with the injuries. The mess up of not appointing Tally to very late in the Day gave Tyrone a clear advantage in preparations. Even at that I thought we were going to win that game with 10 min to go. And we all know about the Kerry game.

Galway will be tough, it's basically a full strength Galway side. A bit of a reversal on the same fixture last year. If we lose we'll prob be relegated and if we win we could prob still make a league final.

statto

Quote from: Mario on February 14, 2025, 11:58:47 AMUp against it now but it could easily have been 2 wins even with the injuries. The mess up of not appointing Tally to very late in the Day gave Tyrone a clear advantage in preparations. Even at that I thought we were going to win that game with 10 min to go. And we all know about the Kerry game.

Galway will be tough, it's basically a full strength Galway side. A bit of a reversal on the same fixture last year. If we lose we'll prob be relegated and if we win we could prob still make a league final.
Given the injuries and squad depth Derry have struggle to see them making a league final especially after losing first two games. 

tbrick18

Quote from: statto on February 14, 2025, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on February 14, 2025, 11:58:47 AMUp against it now but it could easily have been 2 wins even with the injuries. The mess up of not appointing Tally to very late in the Day gave Tyrone a clear advantage in preparations. Even at that I thought we were going to win that game with 10 min to go. And we all know about the Kerry game.

Galway will be tough, it's basically a full strength Galway side. A bit of a reversal on the same fixture last year. If we lose we'll prob be relegated and if we win we could prob still make a league final.
Given the injuries and squad depth Derry have struggle to see them making a league final especially after losing first two games. 

Agreed.
I think if we can manage to stay up it will be a massive achievement.

statto

Quote from: tbrick18 on February 14, 2025, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: statto on February 14, 2025, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on February 14, 2025, 11:58:47 AMUp against it now but it could easily have been 2 wins even with the injuries. The mess up of not appointing Tally to very late in the Day gave Tyrone a clear advantage in preparations. Even at that I thought we were going to win that game with 10 min to go. And we all know about the Kerry game.

Galway will be tough, it's basically a full strength Galway side. A bit of a reversal on the same fixture last year. If we lose we'll prob be relegated and if we win we could prob still make a league final.
Given the injuries and squad depth Derry have struggle to see them making a league final especially after losing first two games. 

Agreed.
I think if we can manage to stay up it will be a massive achievement.

I think they would be delighted with that especially given how late Tally was to the party. They could do without a league final too given in preliminary round of Ulster and the fact they play Donegal. 

Mario

I'm not expecting us to make a league final if we win. I just mean it would still be a possibility given how tight the league will be

JoG2

Making a league final had nothing to do what happened in the 2nd half of the season.

Highly doubt we'll make it, but it sure would help with giving 4 or 5 key men an extra game before championship. I'd be shocked if we don't beat Donegal (in April) tbh

statto

League final is the Sunday before the Donegal game
Quote from: JoG2 on February 14, 2025, 04:28:45 PMMaking a league final had nothing to do what happened in the 2nd half of the season.

Highly doubt we'll make it, but it sure would help with giving 4 or 5 key men an extra game before championship. I'd be shocked if we don't beat Donegal (in April) tbh
What is your rationale for being so confident of beating Donegal? Do you not think Harte playing his best team week in week out last year had an impact on energy levels/player availability later in the year?

I thought Derry were going to be serious serious contenders after the league final last year. 

Ryan O

Quote from: statto on February 14, 2025, 04:41:02 PMLeague final is the Sunday before the Donegal game
Quote from: JoG2 on February 14, 2025, 04:28:45 PMMaking a league final had nothing to do what happened in the 2nd half of the season.

Highly doubt we'll make it, but it sure would help with giving 4 or 5 key men an extra game before championship. I'd be shocked if we don't beat Donegal (in April) tbh
What is your rationale for being so confident of beating Donegal? Do you not think Harte playing his best team week in week out last year had an impact on energy levels/player availability later in the year?

I thought Derry were going to be serious serious contenders after the league final last year. 
Definitely had an impact, I noticed a real drop off in quality in particular from couple of Glen lads who didn't get a break at all. Rushing off to a training camp with only a 3 week window was madness. To go from a league winning high to try and push the lads to step up to another level was unrealistic.

Donegal played put of their skins that day we were shocking and got beat by 6. They scored 15 times to Derrys 17. Yes goals killed us but we missed a couple good goal chances. Theres no massive gap to be closed. Jimmy's doing what he done before, thriving off the hype getting them bought in push them to absolute limit for 3 maybe 4 years and disappear again.


JoG2

Quote from: Ryan O on February 14, 2025, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: statto on February 14, 2025, 04:41:02 PMLeague final is the Sunday before the Donegal game
Quote from: JoG2 on February 14, 2025, 04:28:45 PMMaking a league final had nothing to do what happened in the 2nd half of the season.

Highly doubt we'll make it, but it sure would help with giving 4 or 5 key men an extra game before championship. I'd be shocked if we don't beat Donegal (in April) tbh
What is your rationale for being so confident of beating Donegal? Do you not think Harte playing his best team week in week out last year had an impact on energy levels/player availability later in the year?

I thought Derry were going to be serious serious contenders after the league final last year. 
Definitely had an impact, I noticed a real drop off in quality in particular from couple of Glen lads who didn't get a break at all. Rushing off to a training camp with only a 3 week window was madness. To go from a league winning high to try and push the lads to step up to another level was unrealistic.

Donegal played put of their skins that day we were shocking and got beat by 6. They scored 15 times to Derrys 17. Yes goals killed us but we missed a couple good goal chances. Theres no massive gap to be closed. Jimmy's doing what he done before, thriving off the hype getting them bought in push them to absolute limit for 3 maybe 4 years and disappear again.

First paragraph, the Glen men shouldn't have played in Tralee, prob everyone agrees. But they all did get rest during the league. The drop off in play was only seen post Portugal. That 1st half in Celtic Pk in the Donegal game, it was clear as day there was something up. Zero zip, minimum support runs etc...but this is old ground

We're a better team than Donegal, it's as simple as that. The fact our wheels came off after that training camp won't change that this year .

Ghost

McNicholl didn't look like anything close to a goal keeper for that Galway goal. Not saying Lynch would have saved it but he'd have made himself big and made it difficult for the Galway man whereas mcnicholl just dived out of the way for him.

McNicholl might add a bit going the other way but he'll have to improve in the shot stopping department.

themania1

Quote from: Ghost on February 15, 2025, 05:12:59 PMMcNicholl didn't look like anything close to a goal keeper for that Galway goal. Not saying Lynch would have saved it but he'd have made himself big and made it difficult for the Galway man whereas mcnicholl just dived out of the way for him.

McNicholl might add a bit going the other way but he'll have to improve in the shot stopping department.

We'l be going nowhere with Tohill in the middle and Baker getting exposed with these new rules thats for sure

Ghost

Quote from: themania1 on February 15, 2025, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ghost on February 15, 2025, 05:12:59 PMMcNicholl didn't look like anything close to a goal keeper for that Galway goal. Not saying Lynch would have saved it but he'd have made himself big and made it difficult for the Galway man whereas mcnicholl just dived out of the way for him.

McNicholl might add a bit going the other way but he'll have to improve in the shot stopping department.

We'l be going nowhere with Tohill in the middle and Baker getting exposed with these new rules thats for sure

A lack of real star quality all over the pitch on the showing in the 3 league games so far

themania1

Quote from: Ghost on February 15, 2025, 05:25:04 PM
Quote from: themania1 on February 15, 2025, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ghost on February 15, 2025, 05:12:59 PMMcNicholl didn't look like anything close to a goal keeper for that Galway goal. Not saying Lynch would have saved it but he'd have made himself big and made it difficult for the Galway man whereas mcnicholl just dived out of the way for him.

McNicholl might add a bit going the other way but he'll have to improve in the shot stopping department.

We'l be going nowhere with Tohill in the middle and Baker getting exposed with these new rules thats for sure

A lack of real star quality all over the pitch on the showing in the 3 league games so far
Shadow of the team weve been used to this last few years. Squad depth is non existent. We are in a really tough place and I hate to say it but the new rules dont suit this team

JGDoire