Tír Eoghain vs Maigh Eo AIQF 6/8/2016

[BennyHarp]

How long has this Tyrone team been going for?

Is Galway winning Connacht this year the start or the end of this team?

probably the shtart.  I think Galway still have more all Irelands than Tyrone.

Congratulations Seafoid, I'm sure that will keep you happy as Tipp take the field in a few weeks time. Not relevant in this thread though!

[Mayo4Sam]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Cillian O'Connor is statistically the most relied upon forward in the game. He shoulders more of the scoring responsibilities for Mayo than Conor McManus does for Monaghan. Not having any consistent back up for him who can score from play has been an issue. Their biggest issue is their full back line though.

Can I have this stat please?
Because I'm calling bullshit
League and Championship todate this year
2016

Player

From Play

Frees

COC

0-4

3-16

Regan

2-11

0-29

DOC

2-11

1-0

Doherty

2-8

0-1

Other

5-54

0-20

And in only the games COC played in

Player

From Play

Frees

COC

0-4

3-16

Regan

2-9

0-19

DOC

1-7

0-0

Doherty

2-5

0-0

Other

4-35

0-6

Also are you just another Syferus/larry/whoever else account?

[Mdamd]

Lots of fence sitting. Be careful of blisters. I am going to put head out and say Tyrone by 4 pts. Mayo have a running half back line that don't look to be on top form. If they go forward and run into the tyrone barricade they will break at pace. Tyrone have the patience to bring Mayo onto them and break the attack. I believe pace to be the winner together with football ability. Mayo have a few superstars but Tyrone are playing like a team. For me this will be the winner.

[JoG2]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Cillian O'Connor is statistically the most relied upon forward in the game. He shoulders more of the scoring responsibilities for Mayo than Conor McManus does for Monaghan. Not having any consistent back up for him who can score from play has been an issue. Their biggest issue is their full back line though.

Mayo have not yet met a team that have the 'quality defensive system in place' that Tyrone has.  So this is a massive test  to see how much 'good ball' Mayo can get into their forwards.  Tyrone are lethal at converting 'turnovers' into great scoring opportunities.

A defensive unit that has coughed up 16 and 23 points against Cavan in championship football this year? I'm sure they have

Mayo by 3 in a blistering encounter

[Zulu]

There's a few people claiming Tyrone will suck the Mayo defenders in a then turn them over but I don't think that will happen that often as all teams now know that you play around the defensive structure and try to punch holes in it patiently. If it's not on you come back out and work it to somewhere else. This is why so many games are barely watchable as you see one team walk around with the ball 55 yards from goal and the other team walk around 5 yards in front of them in their defensive shield.

I think Mayo players are experienced enough to not fall into the trap too often and when they do they'll be organised enough to get back in time. Mayo's problem will probably be a lack of players who can take a half chance under immense pressure just to keep the scoreboard ticking over. Like Donegal Tyrone this game will probably be decided by the team who can get the most 1 out of 10 shots or the one that doesn't pass up the few gimmies they create. Mayo don't have the best record in this regard but if they can get a goal then I think they can win.

[Blowitupref]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Don't be getting carried away!

This is just one example. Count the different Mayo scorers.

http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0804/466351-mayo-donegal/

[BennyHarp]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Don't be getting carried away!

This is just one example. Count the different Mayo scorers.

http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0804/466351-mayo-donegal/

It's the ONLY example since 2012. Do you expect 12 or 13 Mayo scorers on Saturday?

[omagh_gael]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Cillian O'Connor is statistically the most relied upon forward in the game. He shoulders more of the scoring responsibilities for Mayo than Conor McManus does for Monaghan. Not having any consistent back up for him who can score from play has been an issue. Their biggest issue is their full back line though.

Mayo have not yet met a team that have the 'quality defensive system in place' that Tyrone has.  So this is a massive test  to see how much 'good ball' Mayo can get into their forwards.  Tyrone are lethal at converting 'turnovers' into great scoring opportunities.

A defensive unit that has coughed up 16 and 23 points against Cavan in championship football this year? I'm sure they have

Mayo by 3 in a blistering encounter

Talk about confirmation bias. Cavan scored 7 points the first day out and we conceded 3 extremely soft goals and the second day out Cavan were at 10 points with twelve to play (Tyrone 4-10) and doubled their total when the match was over as a contest. Our defence is improving all the time and I feel if we can keep Mayo from scoring a goal we should have enough to get over the line.

[JoG2]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Cillian O'Connor is statistically the most relied upon forward in the game. He shoulders more of the scoring responsibilities for Mayo than Conor McManus does for Monaghan. Not having any consistent back up for him who can score from play has been an issue. Their biggest issue is their full back line though.

Mayo have not yet met a team that have the 'quality defensive system in place' that Tyrone has.  So this is a massive test  to see how much 'good ball' Mayo can get into their forwards.  Tyrone are lethal at converting 'turnovers' into great scoring opportunities.

A defensive unit that has coughed up 16 and 23 points against Cavan in championship football this year? I'm sure they have

Mayo by 3 in a blistering encounter

Talk about confirmation bias. Cavan scored 7 points the first day out and we conceded 3 extremely soft goals and the second day out Cavan were at 10 points with twelve to play (Tyrone 4-10) and doubled their total when the match was over as a contest. Our defence is improving all the time and I feel if we can keep Mayo from scoring a goal we should have enough to get over the line.

Tyrone are a well oiled machine defensively, but to say Mayo have not met a defence like it before is stretching it, but that's the hype machine for you, she's in overdrive

[Blowitupref]

Mayo had a spread of 9 different scorers against Westmeath. That's much better than what we're used to seeing from them when Cillian O'Connor was shouldering most of the scoring responsibilities.

A key feature of this Mayo group of players since 2012 has been a big spread of scorers and some games has had 12 or 13 different Mayo scorers.

Don't be getting carried away!

This is just one example. Count the different Mayo scorers.

http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0804/466351-mayo-donegal/

It's the ONLY example since 2012. Do you expect 12 or 13 Mayo scorers on Saturday?

There is more examples last years Connacht final the most recent. I was replying Zeit above who had the opinion that Mayo having 9 different scorers in a game was something new for them when in fact it's a trademark of this team.

12 or 13 no but don't be surprised if Mayo end up with 8 or 9 different scorers v Tyrone on Saturday. And just to let you know in the last championship meeting Mayo had a good spread of scorers v Tyrone

[muppet]

It is not unusual for up to 4 of our starting backs (Keegan, Durkan, Boyle & Higgins) to get on the scoresheet these days. Unfortunately it is not unusual for 3 or 4 of our starting forwards not to score at all. So who knows what that means for saturday.

[From the Bunker]

It is not unusual for up to 4 of our starting backs (Keegan, Durkan, Boyle & Higgins) to get on the scoresheet these days. Unfortunately it is not unusual for 3 or 4 of our starting forwards not to score at all. So who knows what that means for saturday.

Muppet, It matters not a Sh1te who scores, so long as someone is scoring! We have been hearing this Marquee forward malarkey for 5 years now. That's not the problem!

[Zulu]

It is FoB, whether Mayo folk like it or not. Mind you it's increasingly defenders who are getting the chances as they are the ones breaking the line and are generally not being man marked so we could be entering a new world where it's a marquee defender that's required!

[yellowcard]

With the greatest respect to Tipperary this match is effectively for a place in this years AI final. I believe that Tyrone will allow Mayo to run the ball up until the 45m line, then attempt to turn them over and hit them with fast transitions. Unless Mayo can come up with some new innovative tactic within 7 days, I don't see how they can break down the Tyrone defence often enough to get the scores necessary to win. Mickey Harte to effectively seal his 4th AI final appearance a lot easier than expected.   

[Hereiam]

Speed, Brut force and fitness will break Tyrone's defense, has Mayo got all these at the minute.....i don't know.