Connacht senior football final Galway v Roscommon July 10th

Started by giveballaghback, June 18, 2016, 09:46:19 PM

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barking mad

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Very good analysis although I don't know if his right in that been extent of Galways ability.
I think there a 16 point side.
Can we outscore that
Yes but we must get a 4 or 5 point lead and get them to abandon the maroon wall or we will struggle again

weareros

Quote from: oliverkelly on July 13, 2016, 11:26:33 AM


Yes we were very defensive with the wind in fist half but if you actually watched game, We always keep at least 3 guys inside galway half in first half same cant be said for Galway when wind was even stronger in second half. A lot of second half particularly last 15 mins the only players in Roscommon half were goalie and one defender. Not often I agree with sfy but on this he is correct

It's an eternal verity of the GAA universe that if two teams play a dour game of football, the team with the less aristocratic tradition ships the blame.

Maroon Manc

Galway people more than happy to admit they play defensive football that isn't great to watch but several of the lads from Roscommon are having great difficulty in coming to terms with their dour performance on Sunday and blaming it on Galway. You couldn't make it up.

Jinxy

Quote from: weareros on July 13, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on July 13, 2016, 11:26:33 AM


Yes we were very defensive with the wind in fist half but if you actually watched game, We always keep at least 3 guys inside galway half in first half same cant be said for Galway when wind was even stronger in second half. A lot of second half particularly last 15 mins the only players in Roscommon half were goalie and one defender. Not often I agree with sfy but on this he is correct

It's an eternal verity of the GAA universe that if two teams play a dour game of football, the team with the less aristocratic tradition ships the blame.

Yeah, either that or the team that had 748 handpasses.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Rudi

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Galway people more than happy to admit they play defensive football that isn't great to watch but several of the lads from Roscommon are having great difficulty in coming to terms with their dour performance on Sunday and blaming it on Galway. You couldn't make it up.

It was a poor game because of (a) conditions (b) both teams played defensive with the wind (c) fear of losing took hold. Its a big deal for either team to win a Connacht championship, hopefully Ros will get back to the offensive approach that won 4 games on the trot back in the spring. Galway were about 4 points the better team the last day, fair play to our lads for kicking 2 late points. Game is hard to call the next day, hopefully our lads abandon the blanket, Galway under Walsh won't.

seafoid

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Galway people more than happy to admit they play defensive football that isn't great to watch but several of the lads from Roscommon are having great difficulty in coming to terms with their dour performance on Sunday and blaming it on Galway. You couldn't make it up.
Defensive control but also the traditional Galway scoring threat. It is 50% puke 50% flĂșirseach. The forwards are great when they smell blood . I think it was Keith Duggan who wrote about swagger and authority. Smacht.

If only Mayo could find it.

Jinxy

You should always play to your strengths.
Ros people are naturally offensive.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

seafoid

Quote from: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
You should always play to your strengths.
Ros people are naturally offensive.
Ros Mayo and Cavan won 10 all Irelands during a period of deflation between the 30s and 50s. Deflation is back. It is very offensive . Never mind the flashy Ros jerseys.

But Syferus is not a Rossie rep even if he does generate most of the content

weareros

Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Galway people more than happy to admit they play defensive football that isn't great to watch but several of the lads from Roscommon are having great difficulty in coming to terms with their dour performance on Sunday and blaming it on Galway. You couldn't make it up.
Defensive control but also the traditional Galway scoring threat. It is 50% puke 50% flĂșirseach. The forwards are great when they smell blood . I think it was Keith Duggan who wrote about swagger and authority. Smacht.

If only Mayo could find it.

Galway Smacht = Italian Catenaccio

* Possibly first brought to Galway by Christopher Columbus in 1477

Maroon Manc

Quote from: Rudi on July 13, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 13, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Galway people more than happy to admit they play defensive football that isn't great to watch but several of the lads from Roscommon are having great difficulty in coming to terms with their dour performance on Sunday and blaming it on Galway. You couldn't make it up.

It was a poor game because of (a) conditions (b) both teams played defensive with the wind (c) fear of losing took hold. Its a big deal for either team to win a Connacht championship, hopefully Ros will get back to the offensive approach that won 4 games on the trot back in the spring. Galway were about 4 points the better team the last day, fair play to our lads for kicking 2 late points. Game is hard to call the next day, hopefully our lads abandon the blanket, Galway under Walsh won't.


I agree with all of that, not sure I see Roscommon reverting to the way they played during the league but time will tell on that.


Lar Naparka

Quote from: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
You should always play to your strengths.
Ros people are naturally offensive.

They are indeed. Didn't Tom Kennedy say the same thing! ;D
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

galwayman

Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2016, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

Have you watched Galway play much? It was clear back in January in the FBD that Walah intended to set up to play elbows and blankets almost exclusively - it's been a theme of Galway's play under him and something that clearly is a basic tenant of his tactics. Many of the same Galway players were ripped open by us in the FBD final last year leading to four goals and that would have meant he was extra keen to shut up shop.

We on the other hand have spent the year playing some of the most positive football in the whole country so it's hard to really see how you could disagree with the suggestion Sunday's spectacle was driven by Galway and not us. Pissing rain, mad wind, only Galway would have benefited from us playing open football on Sunday. Our problem was paying too much respect to a Galway side who has done nothing to deserve that respect and sitting too many men back to defend their attacks. The mistake is unlikely to be repeated.

Very easy to roll your eyes but Galway haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to negative tactics. It's a pity a team filled with AI winners at U21 and club feel so inferior they set up to play football like a bad D3 team.

McHale is a fine coach and was instrumental for Brigids' AI win with McStay. Very happy to have him involved.

Since you bring that point up and are so eager to paint Galway as the most defensive team in the country - may I pose your own question to you?
Have YOU watched Galway much this year? Did you attend ANY of our league games? I would be fairly confident you did not.
I personally attended most of our league games.
Galway did not actually play that defensively throughout the league at all. I was there and they simply did not.

You go on as if Roscommon played swashbuckling attacking football on Sunday.
You keep referring to the league while continually referencing how defensive Galway are/have been all year.
As I have stated above this is simple untrue. Don't be making sweeping statements about which you know nothing.
You weren't there so how could you have any idea.
I cannot talk about Roscommon's supposed attacking style throughout the league. I wasn't there so how could I know other than relying on hearsay.

Nobody is disputing the fact that Galway setup defensively on Sunday (I certainly am not). But please drop that bullshit you are espousing about us being the most defensive team since time immemorial.
While Roscommon are painted as some form of football purists.

Every thread on this board you seem to revel in getting digs in at both ourselves and Mayo. I don't see other posters doing likewise.

Chip on the shoulder?

Maroon Manc

Replay is live on RTE website and on gaago for those living overseas like me.