Connacht senior football final Galway v Roscommon July 10th

Started by giveballaghback, June 18, 2016, 09:46:19 PM

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weareros

Think too much typical GAA puritanical thorn whipping thrown  at the lack of purity on display Sunday but as Father Devine noted in The Roscommon Herald it was real Theresa Mannion weather. Of course the worry from a Ros POV is that MacHale is a tighter pitch and can be windy too and Galway's defensive system will allow little space. I would prefer to see the likes of Donie and Senan start because on form they can take a long range point and in early stages that might be our only route to scores. Mighty relieved to have another chance though..

Syferus

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 06:26:50 PM
Roscommon don't have the time to change the game plan too much, its either play the same way as they did last Sunday or revert back to the way they played in the league which I don't see happening. Maybe they might play Kilbride & Shine in the full forward line but even then Galway will have plenty of extra bodies back by the time the ball goes into them; The Ross are hardly likely to press Galway's kickouts and they'll go short on their own so its hard to make a case for putting 2 big men in the full forward line.

Very easy to make tactical changes that alter what we set out to do Sunday, which we didn't even execute on as the whole point had to have been transitioning to attack at pace not at the speed of octagarians. Nonsense to think that a gameplan cooked up in a few weeks and 100% of our wide open league play are the only options.

It will be a balance between the two and unfortunately for Galway that might be the very worst thing for them to encounter.

GalwayBayBoy

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Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
God ye poor Galway souls lived off that 2008 Quarter final v Kerry.

I had forgotten about it after a few days. Like the vast majority of games we lose. People from other counties seem to go on about it more than Galway people do.

Blowitupref

I think the replay has extra time written all over it. The strength of the benches could prove the difference and it will likely take a moment of inspiration or a error like 1998 to separate the two. The winner should go on to reach the All Ireland semi final the loser with a 6 day turnaround will likely lose their round 4 qualifier. High stakes game that should be screened live on TV.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Maroon Manc

Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

mayo.mick

Lads, this might be useful for watching the Connacht final live.  The lads here post up the live feeds from the cameras to the satellites. They're the raw feed so there'd be no commentary or edits. Usually post the details on the morning of a match when they pick the frequency up. (I've only recently found this)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057554774
mayo for sam-don't ask me what year! :-)
https://michaelmaye.com/mayo-gaa-photos/
@mayo_mick

seafoid

Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 06:26:50 PM
Roscommon don't have the time to change the game plan too much, its either play the same way as they did last Sunday or revert back to the way they played in the league which I don't see happening. Maybe they might play Kilbride & Shine in the full forward line but even then Galway will have plenty of extra bodies back by the time the ball goes into them; The Ross are hardly likely to press Galway's kickouts and they'll go short on their own so its hard to make a case for putting 2 big men in the full forward line.

Very easy to make tactical changes that alter what we set out to do Sunday, which we didn't even execute on as the whole point had to have been transitioning to attack at pace not at the speed of octagarians. Nonsense to think that a gameplan cooked up in a few weeks and 100% of our wide open league play are the only options.

It will be a balance between the two and unfortunately for Galway that might be the very worst thing for them to encounter.
Maith an buachaill

barking mad

Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)
Perfectly right 10 minutes into the second half level with a gale on there asses and they decide to put a maroon wall on there 45 and try and hit us on the counter
What on gods earth was Walsh thinking.
I genuinely believed we would be beaten by 8 points at least 10 into the second half.
He let us off the hook thanks, cause now it's time to concentrate on our own game and forget about the rubbish Walsh sets up.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

He must have a short memory. He was on the radio last week too saying how Roscommon have to get numbers back in defence and keep it tight until the game settles down.

Not sure how the narrative has emerged the past day or two that Galway were the only side getting lots of players back behind the ball.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 12, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

He must have a short memory. He was on the radio last week too saying how Roscommon have to get numbers back in defence and keep it tight until the game settles down.

Not sure how the narrative has emerged the past day or two that Galway were the only side getting lots of players back behind the ball.

He sure was, spoke about important it was to double up on Comer. Apparently Galway have played like this for 2 years too, funny enough I haven't seen much evidence of it in that time frame. You only have to look at the damage AOS and the space he got on Hanley last summer for the evidence of that.

I don't recall Galway being on the receiving end of any criticism for an almost identical performance against Mayo.

weareros

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 12, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

He must have a short memory. He was on the radio last week too saying how Roscommon have to get numbers back in defence and keep it tight until the game settles down.

Not sure how the narrative has emerged the past day or two that Galway were the only side getting lots of players back behind the ball.

Ah now I don't think that narrative has emerged. The narrative that has emerged is that both teams played shockingly defensive with a galeforce wind, albeit swirling wind, at their backs. It's just that Galway executed the blanket defence with a galeforce wind at their backs better so much so that I didn't think there was a hope in hell of us getting two late points.

galwayman

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)
Liam McHale is a mouthpiece.
Wouldn't be paying too much attention to anything he says.

From the Bunker

Quote from: galwayman on July 12, 2016, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)
Liam McHale is a mouthpiece.
Wouldn't be paying too much attention to anything he says.

Liam's a legend! But the tends to open his mouth too wide!

Syferus

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Liam McHale on Newstalk laying all the blame on Galway for the boring encounter  ::)

Have you watched Galway play much? It was clear back in January in the FBD that Walah intended to set up to play elbows and blankets almost exclusively - it's been a theme of Galway's play under him and something that clearly is a basic tenant of his tactics. Many of the same Galway players were ripped open by us in the FBD final last year leading to four goals and that would have meant he was extra keen to shut up shop.

We on the other hand have spent the year playing some of the most positive football in the whole country so it's hard to really see how you could disagree with the suggestion Sunday's spectacle was driven by Galway and not us. Pissing rain, mad wind, only Galway would have benefited from us playing open football on Sunday. Our problem was paying too much respect to a Galway side who has done nothing to deserve that respect and sitting too many men back to defend their attacks. The mistake is unlikely to be repeated.

Very easy to roll your eyes but Galway haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to negative tactics. It's a pity a team filled with AI winners at U21 and club feel so inferior they set up to play football like a bad D3 team.

McHale is a fine coach and was instrumental for Brigids' AI win with McStay. Very happy to have him involved.