Connacht senior football final Galway v Roscommon July 10th

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Fuzzman


seafoid

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 03:14:38 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-defensive-coaches-leading-game-down-dead-end-1.2718416

Sounds like Jim is getting worried he is responsible for killing GAA as we used to know it.
Are most pitches in Donegal really on the coast?

Galway got crap for years for not being able to play puke football.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 03:14:38 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-defensive-coaches-leading-game-down-dead-end-1.2718416

Sounds like Jim is getting worried he is responsible for killing GAA as we used to know it.
Are most pitches in Donegal really on the coast?

Galway got crap for years for not being able to play puke football.
Didn't Joe Kernan go down West to show them how to play modern football properly?

twohands!!!

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 03:14:38 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-defensive-coaches-leading-game-down-dead-end-1.2718416

Sounds like Jim is getting worried he is responsible for killing GAA as we used to know it.

"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.".

Jim's comment after watching the Connacht final.

seafoid

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 12, 2016, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 03:14:38 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-defensive-coaches-leading-game-down-dead-end-1.2718416

Sounds like Jim is getting worried he is responsible for killing GAA as we used to know it.
Are most pitches in Donegal really on the coast?

Galway got crap for years for not being able to play puke football.
Didn't Joe Kernan go down West to show them how to play modern football properly?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/tribesmens-crisis-of-identity-2806121.html

A decade without success and they begin to wonder now. When they lost a high-scoring, entertaining game to Kerry in the 2008 All-Ireland quarter-final, some credited manager Liam Sammon for the quality of Galway's football while others questioned an approach that saw them go toe to toe with a superior team. With the tactical revolution of the noughties, they argued, Galway with their dreamy notions of a purer age were being left behind. Tactically outdated and naive.
In that light it is possible to view the curious experiment with Joe Kernan and last year's appointment of รณ Flatharta as Galway's attempt to move with the times, seeking to blend their traditional style with a new defensive-minded toughness. But it has seemed too half-hearted, feeding a chronic identity crisis where Galway end up being neither one thing nor the other. Hanley neatly condensed the debate during the week, pointing out the strength of feeling for the old ways while offering the important qualifier that football today is increasingly a "results business".
"It's complicated," says Mulholland. "Everyone involved in Galway football is conscious of it. There's a brand of Galway football and people are very wary about compromising it. We're Galway football. Is it acceptable to compromise? 1966, 1998, 2001. Ten years on and we're still trying to play Galway football. It's nice to have that but two All-Irelands in 40-odd years? Would people prefer to win All-Irelands?"

From the Bunker

#425
God ye poor Galway souls lived off that 2008 Quarter final v Kerry. It sort of filled a gap for under achievement. Ye played nice football, Kerry played nice football, the rain came down, the lights went on, The Journalists got to write a nice story. Kerry people got to talk about how nice it was to play nice football and win (as opposed to playing so called ugly football v Tyrone/Armagh and losing). After seven years of mediocrity, this game bought Galway a few more years of coasting on the '98 and '01 years.

Mayo played Kerry in the 2005 All Ireland Football Quarter final. Kerry played nice football, We played nice football, we lost by 3 points. We got no plaudits. Why? Because underneath everybody knew Kerry could have beat us by any amount they liked. They had done it the year before in the AI final. Kerry don't do hammerings at quarter final stages, they just do what they have to do!



ballinaman

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
. Kerry don't do hammerings at quarter final stages, they just do what they have to do!
Try telling the Kildare lads that

From the Bunker

Quote from: ballinaman on July 12, 2016, 05:51:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
. Kerry don't do hammerings at quarter final stages, they just do what they have to do!
Try telling the Kildare lads that

Unless completely lie down on your arse!

Rossfan

Anyway who's going to win the replay?
I can see us winning it by 3.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2016, 05:57:44 PM
Anyway who's going to win the replay?
I can see us winning it by 3.

Ye have a chance if ye abandon with the Tom foolery ye were at the last day!

seafoid

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
God ye poor Galway souls lived off that 2008 Quarter final v Kerry. It sort of filled a gap for under achievement. Ye played nice football, Kerry played nice football, the rain came down, the lights went on, The Journalists got to write a nice story. Kerry people got to talk about how nice it was to play nice football and win (as opposed to playing so called ugly football v Tyrone/Armagh and losing). After seven years of mediocrity, this game bought Galway a few more years of coasting on the '98 and '01 years.

Mayo played Kerry in the 2005 All Ireland Football Quarter final. Kerry played nice football, We played nice football, we lost by 3 points. We got no plaudits. Why? Because underneath everybody knew Kerry could have beat us by any amount they liked. They had done it the year before in the AI final. Kerry don't do hammerings at quarter final stages, they just do what they have to do!
Mediocrity is the default state.
Every so often a decent team comes along.

From the Bunker

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
God ye poor Galway souls lived off that 2008 Quarter final v Kerry. It sort of filled a gap for under achievement. Ye played nice football, Kerry played nice football, the rain came down, the lights went on, The Journalists got to write a nice story. Kerry people got to talk about how nice it was to play nice football and win (as opposed to playing so called ugly football v Tyrone/Armagh and losing). After seven years of mediocrity, this game bought Galway a few more years of coasting on the '98 and '01 years.

Mayo played Kerry in the 2005 All Ireland Football Quarter final. Kerry played nice football, We played nice football, we lost by 3 points. We got no plaudits. Why? Because underneath everybody knew Kerry could have beat us by any amount they liked. They had done it the year before in the AI final. Kerry don't do hammerings at quarter final stages, they just do what they have to do!
Mediocrity is the default state.
Every so often a decent team comes along.

What state are the present side?

Syferus

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2016, 05:57:44 PM
Anyway who's going to win the replay?
I can see us winning it by 3.

Ye have a chance if ye abandon with the Tom foolery ye were at the last day!

With the cameras away we can blast away and play proper football and keep the powder dry for the business end of the championship.  All part of McFOD's masterclass.

Maroon Manc

Roscommon don't have the time to change the game plan too much, its either play the same way as they did last Sunday or revert back to the way they played in the league which I don't see happening. Maybe they might play Kilbride & Shine in the full forward line but even then Galway will have plenty of extra bodies back by the time the ball goes into them; The Ross are hardly likely to press Galway's kickouts and they'll go short on their own so its hard to make a case for putting 2 big men in the full forward line.

oliverkelly

#434
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2016, 06:26:50 PM
Roscommon don't have the time to change the game plan too much, its either play the same way as they did last Sunday or revert back to the way they played in the league which I don't see happening. Maybe they might play Kilbride & Shine in the full forward line but even then Galway will have plenty of extra bodies back by the time the ball goes into them; The Ross are hardly likely to press Galway's kickouts and they'll go short on their own so its hard to make a case for putting 2 big men in the full forward line.

Good post. I hope your wrong and we do play more attacking but I doubt it.