A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

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AustinPowers

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 24, 2025, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 24, 2025, 10:11:17 AMSo RTE should be  able to name him in their reports?

RTE are an extension of the Crown. F*** sake they had a ban on Gerry Adams voice for decades to align with the the Brits.


Did they?

I  do remember the ridiculous ban on  british channels, but not RTE. Well, not in thevearly 90's anyway. Maybe  they had him  banned earlier?

Rossfan

Section 31 ran from early 1970s up to start of 90s.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Snapchap

RTÉ were eager participants in the censorship of republican voices. The Section 31 legislation only required them to ban SF spokespeople. It was RTÉ who took it upon themselves to extended it to ban all members, no matter what they were talking about or whether they were speaking on behalf of Sinn Féin or not.

RTÉ even once went as far as to go to court to effectively demand their right to be censored when it came to Sinn Féin.

In 1992, they interviewed Finglas man Larry O'Toole about a trade union dispute he was involved in. RTÉ interviewed him as leader of the workers but, upon learning that he was a member of SF, refused to broadcast the interview and wrote to Larry confirming that he was banned under Section 31.

Larry took them to the High Court, which found in Larry's favour with the judge ruling that RTE was free to interview Sinn Féin members involved in trade union, community or other activities.

Did RTÉ welcome this new freedom from censorship and increades editorial control over it's output? No. Instead it appealed the decision in defence of it's right to have it's output censored and they stated in court that it would not allow a SF voice actor to advertise a bar of soap, had they a say.

One US Newspaper at the time, in an opinion piece about the story, stated "We are astonished that RTE, instead of welcoming this liberal interpretation of an abhorrent censorship statute, is asking the Irish Supreme Court for a greater restriction of its free-speech rights."

johnnycool

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 24, 2025, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 24, 2025, 10:11:17 AMSo RTE should be  able to name him in their reports?

RTE are an extension of the Crown. F*** sake they had a ban on Gerry Adams voice for decades to align with the the Brits.


RTÉ's ban was before Thatcher introduced it into the UK

AustinPowers

Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2025, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 24, 2025, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 24, 2025, 10:11:17 AMSo RTE should be  able to name him in their reports?

RTE are an extension of the Crown. F*** sake they had a ban on Gerry Adams voice for decades to align with the the Brits.


RTÉ's ban was before Thatcher introduced it into the UK

Hmm, maybe Bunker  has a point

Look-Up!

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 24, 2025, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2025, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 24, 2025, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 24, 2025, 10:11:17 AMSo RTE should be  able to name him in their reports?

RTE are an extension of the Crown. F*** sake they had a ban on Gerry Adams voice for decades to align with the the Brits.


RTÉ's ban was before Thatcher introduced it into the UK

Hmm, maybe Bunker  has a point
Irish Army heads in the Curragh back in the day opposed Home Rule and were prepared to fight on the side of Unionist militias up North against it.

So don't be shocked there was severe anti republican bias in our institutions in the 70s and 80s and even today.

armaghniac

Quote from: Look-Up! on October 24, 2025, 11:58:46 AMIrish Army heads in the Curragh back in the day opposed Home Rule and were prepared to fight on the side of Unionist militias up North against it.

So don't be shocked there was severe anti republican bias in our institutions in the 70s and 80s and even today.

There was no Irish army, this was the British army in the Curragh. The British Army has no relevance to events 60 years later so this is nonsense.
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Look-Up!

Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2025, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 24, 2025, 11:58:46 AMIrish Army heads in the Curragh back in the day opposed Home Rule and were prepared to fight on the side of Unionist militias up North against it.

So don't be shocked there was severe anti republican bias in our institutions in the 70s and 80s and even today.

There was no Irish army, this was the British army in the Curragh. The British Army has no relevance to events 60 years later so this is nonsense.
Irish army, British army. I'm not going to get pedantic about names. But there wouldn't have been a root and branch clear out and start over again, when independence came, of any of our institutions, either in personnel, know how, or procedures. There would have been a huge amount of legacy. 

armaghniac

Quote from: Look-Up! on October 24, 2025, 12:22:49 PMIrish army, British army. I'm not going to get pedantic about names

I think that is information enough. 

MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Look-Up!

Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2025, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on October 24, 2025, 12:22:49 PMIrish army, British army. I'm not going to get pedantic about names

I think that is information enough. 


Beats picking up a book eh