Long Kesh Park takes another step forward

[AZOffaly]

In our 128 year history, we have managed to survive the secession of 3/4 of our territory

OY!!! What's that supposed to mean?

[Evil Genius]

What part of 'I don't give a fcuk about your sport, your stadium and your report' do you not understand?

For someone who "doesn't give a fcuk" about our sport and stadium, why do you continue to browse our website, then? Or take the trouble to insult us at length in your posts on this part of the Board? Strange behaviour, I must say.  

If I was to take more than my passing interest in soccer it certainly wouldn't be in a foreign team such as Northern Ireland

"Foreign team"? Is Donagh not still in Northern Ireland? I'd hate to think the Struggle for National Liberation had been successful and I missed the celebrations...

I made a point about that bunch of ill-informed morons on OWC who are spinning lies about the GAA to sink the Long Kesh stadium – the GAA-Long Kesh stadium connection is as far as my interest goes – apart from laughing at the GAWA wannabe little Englanders.

"Spinning lies" is it? I've already allowed you your one "lie" singular (though I prefer misconception, myself), if for no other reason than that it was only ever a minor part of the Report anyhow.

So you would you now like to accept the third (fourth?) (fifth?) challenge to enlighten us as to where this Report is "full" of the lies, errors, irrelevances etc you allege? Or do you prefer to go on looking silly for having raised the Report in the first place, before failing conspicuously and utterly in your attempt to disparage it, so that you are now reduced to petty insults in an effort to cover your embarrassment?  

[Evil Genius]

You would think the norn iron fans would be in favour of a new stadium as soon as possible in order to cement their future.

We are in favour of a new stadium as soon as possible. However, there is no point in jumping out of the (Windsor Park) "frying pan" into the "fire" that is the Maze. Remember, if the Maze should get built, we will all be stuck with it for the next 50+ years, so we all need to be persuaded that it is the right option. On which point, it may be OK for GAA and Rugby, but having studied the plan carefully, soccer fans are ever more convinced that whilst it may appear to solve our present short-term Stadium problem, it will actually be a long-term disaster. Which is only what the Amalgamation Report is saying.

On which point, do you care to give us your opinions on that Report?

The longer they go with third rate facilities, the sooner there will be an all ireland team.

In our 128 year history, we have managed to survive the secession of 3/4 of our territory, two World Wars and 30 years of The Troubles, including a four year period when we were forced to play our home games in England.
Somehow, I'm sure we'll manage to come through this latest difficulty.
But thank you for your concern...

I havnt read the pwc report so i wouldnt be reading a response to it  .

The Amalgamation have read PWC's Report very carefully, and in their analysis of it have been scrupulous in specifying exactly where they think it wrong, with extracts. Therefore, it should be possible to come to an opinion on the Amalgamation's analysis by reading what they (Amalgamation) have written. After all, even Donagh was able to take it all in with a quick glance in order to be able to reach his conclusion! 

What year do you think you will be watching norn iron in a new stadium then?

Don't really know - it could be 5, 6 even 10 years. But if so, i'm sure we'll survive somehow. Our first priority was to see off the Maze, which might now be being fulfilled (I'll still not believe it until it's official, mind). If we can win that battle, I'm confident we can win the next battle for an an alternative home.

[Evil Genius]

In our 128 year history, we have managed to survive the secession of 3/4 of our territory

OY!!! What's that supposed to mean?

Oh, i think you know, you little scamp, you! 

[Chrisowc]

The personal stuff on this thread is unbelievably childish.
"play the ball, not the man" obviously only counts when certain men are being played.

The hypocracy is unreal.

Indeed, His Holiness. None more spectacular than this tirade....

a foreign team such as Northern Ireland which happily attracts all manner of neo-Nazi and loyalist scumbags to its games. I made a point about that bunch of ill-informed morons on OWC

but I somehow doubt that was what you were getting at

[Donagh]

The personal stuff on this thread is unbelievably childish.
"play the ball, not the man" obviously only counts when certain men are being played.

The hypocracy is unreal.

Indeed, His Holiness. None more spectacular than this tirade....

a foreign team such as Northern Ireland which happily attracts all manner of neo-Nazi and loyalist scumbags to its games. I made a point about that bunch of ill-informed morons on OWC

but I somehow doubt that was what you were getting at

So which bit of that 'tirade' is untrue Chris and which 'man' is it personally directed at?

[Chrisowc]

Well, it might not be playing one specific man you are definately 'having a go'

As for what is untrue?  I don't really have to go too far do I?

The first two words will do for starters.  Once you've grasped that then I'll go through the rest.

[SammyG]

The personal stuff on this thread is unbelievably childish.
"play the ball, not the man" obviously only counts when certain men are being played.

The hypocracy is unreal.

Indeed, His Holiness. None more spectacular than this tirade....

a foreign team such as Northern Ireland which happily attracts all manner of neo-Nazi and loyalist scumbags to its games. I made a point about that bunch of ill-informed morons on OWC

but I somehow doubt that was what you were getting at

So which bit of that 'tirade' is untrue Chris and which 'man' is it personally directed at?

Let's see
It isn't a foreign team, it's based in the country it represents and always has been
It doesn't attract loyalists (happily or otherwise) who prefer to support Engerlund
It has no connections or attendancve by any neo-Nazi groups and you need to withdraw this allegation.
You keep wittering about people being 'ill-informed' yet you continue to read the board and are able to comment on a lengthy response (to dismiss it as irrelevant) without having read it. Ill-informed indeed.

[Donagh]

It's foreign to me Sammy. I think I've probably been in 'Northern Ireland' as many times as you've been in Spain. Was a fecking shithole as well – I try not to go back that often. Full of boys like your man Marty from OWC. You know they type – tries to hard to pretend they're straight out of thon movie Quadrophenia. I'm not a betting man but I'd lay good money they even chant in a Cockney accent when they go to the soccer on a Saturday afternoon. I do pity you having to live there. Opps that's right you got out when you could as well. Good man yerself. My sympathies all the same.

Re. the neo-Nazi thing. A good friend of mine, who also happens to be a block booker at Windsor picked up a copy of a little magazine called 'Blood and Honour' outside the stadium (he knows I have an interest in such things). Now that these people are able to openly sell this rag and that people were buying it, tell us that neo-Nazis do attend NI games at Windsor Park, so I will not be withdrawing anything.

Have to shoot off here. The national broadcaster with the mast on top of Divis mountain is showing the 'Magnificent Seven' this evening. Strangely for them and unlike the documentary on Charlie Kerins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kerins) they aired last night, there's no subtitles on this one. Small luxuries hi...

[Donagh]

Well, it might not be playing one specific man you are definately 'having a go'

As for what is untrue?  I don't really have to go too far do I?

The first two words will do for starters.  Once you've grasped that then I'll go through the rest.

Ach Chris, sure life would be awful boring if you didn't have a go at something.

[Solomon Kane]

Re. the neo-Nazi thing. A good friend of mine, who also happens to be a block booker at Windsor picked up a copy of a little magazine called 'Blood and Honour' outside the stadium (he knows I have an interest in such things). Now that these people are able to openly sell this rag and that people were buying it, tell us that neo-Nazis do attend NI games at Windsor Park, so I will not be withdrawing anything.

I don't know what's the most laughably bullshit statement here - Donagh having a good friend who is a block booker at Windsor Park, or a magazine called Blood and Honour for sale outside an International game there. I happen to be a block booker and have been to many, many international games at Windsor park and beyond, and have not seen the likes of that for sale in Belfast or anywhere else.

[SammyG]

Re. the neo-Nazi thing. A good friend of mine, who also happens to be a block booker at Windsor picked up a copy of a little magazine called 'Blood and Honour' outside the stadium (he knows I have an interest in such things). Now that these people are able to openly sell this rag and that people were buying it, tell us that neo-Nazis do attend NI games at Windsor Park, so I will not be withdrawing anything.

Absolute horse-shit. Christ Doangh you must be getting desperate if you're making up shite like that.

[Donagh]

Re. the neo-Nazi thing. A good friend of mine, who also happens to be a block booker at Windsor picked up a copy of a little magazine called 'Blood and Honour' outside the stadium (he knows I have an interest in such things). Now that these people are able to openly sell this rag and that people were buying it, tell us that neo-Nazis do attend NI games at Windsor Park, so I will not be withdrawing anything.

Absolute horse-shit. Christ Doangh you must be getting desperate if you're making up shite like that.

Don't shoot the messenger Sammy. You'd be better off weeding out the scumbags in you own support first. I suppose that goes with the territory when you play your games in a hard-line loyalist area in a 'stadium'  owned by a club who can cout on the support of neo-Nazi cutthroats and who themselves sell CDs glorifying attacks on rivals with '"hammers and hatchets".

[Donagh]

I don't know what's the most laughably bullshit statement here - Donagh having a good friend who is a block booker at Windsor Park

Actually I've a few mates who are block-bookers as I think some of your OWC buddies should be able to confirm. One of them is even a former peeler. 

[Solomon Kane]

I don't know what's the most laughably bullshit statement here - Donagh having a good friend who is a block booker at Windsor Park

Actually I've a few mates who are block-bookers as I think some of your OWC buddies should be able to confirm. One of them is even a former peeler. 

I'm sure they are over the moon with some of the hateful bile you spew here, or have you the balls to tell it to their faces?


On the other hand, it all reeks of "some of my best friends are black".