Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Angelo]

Had to get the ankle rebroken and reset. That was only in August wasn't it? He'll be doing well to be back at it in a week or two.

If that's the case we need to be very careful with him given what the pitches are like this time of year.

Probably best targeting him seeing some action toward the end of the league.

[trailer]

Any team that includes Kieran McGeary or Frank Burns cannot have serious aspirations to win football matches.

[Gaafan2]

Any team that includes Kieran McGeary or Frank Burns cannot have serious aspirations to win football matches.

You really cant hide you hatred of the Plunketts

[Dire Ear]

P Harte no6, McShane at 11 and Matty at 15,  Young Canavan as supersub
The rest is easy

[God14]

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
Munroe

Kennedy
Kilpatrick

Mattie
McKenna
Harte

McShane
McNulty
McCurry

[GetOverTheBar]

P Harte no6, McShane at 11 and Matty at 15,  Young Canavan as supersub
The rest is easy

Probably the only place he starts now?

[PMG1]

Sludden at 6 is superb, by far the best 6 in the county, great positional sense, can tackle with discipline and can carry the ball as good as anyone from there

[NotedObserver]

Feel they have to try him there or half back line. The amount of time Tyrone half backs make bad calls and I don't think he will make as many

[GiveItToTheShooters]

P Harte no6, McShane at 11 and Matty at 15,  Young Canavan as supersub
The rest is easy

LoL

[GiveItToTheShooters]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

[Angelo]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

Age is relevant. Not too many counties with 20/21 year old s starting for them.

Size is very relevant. Look at the top counties now and tell us  how many players under 5ft10 line out for them now. The game has changed an awful lot over the past 20/30 years.

Canavan is a fantastic talent but he has it all to prove and we must be careful in our expectations and how we manage him. There's a lot of competition in his position now so he will need to be delivering to start and I think you are gone way overboard on a young talent who has only played one Championship game.

Guys like McCurry, McAliskey and Bradley have much more experience and physical development made at the minute and they are some of the players he will be fighting it out with.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

Age is relevant. Not too many counties with 20/21 year old s starting for them.

Size is very relevant. Look at the top counties now and tell us  how many players under 5ft10 line out for them now. The game has changed an awful lot over the past 20/30 years.

Canavan is a fantastic talent but he has it all to prove and we must be careful in our expectations and how we manage him. There's a lot of competition in his position now so he will need to be delivering to start and I think you are gone way overboard on a young talent who has only played one Championship game.

Guys like McCurry, McAliskey and Bradley have much more experience and physical development made at the minute and they are some of the players he will be fighting it out with.

No it isn't. If you're good enough, you're old enough, it's that simple.  Doesn't matter what age or height you are.
If he performs, then he should play.

[Angelo]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

Age is relevant. Not too many counties with 20/21 year old s starting for them.

Size is very relevant. Look at the top counties now and tell us  how many players under 5ft10 line out for them now. The game has changed an awful lot over the past 20/30 years.

Canavan is a fantastic talent but he has it all to prove and we must be careful in our expectations and how we manage him. There's a lot of competition in his position now so he will need to be delivering to start and I think you are gone way overboard on a young talent who has only played one Championship game.

Guys like McCurry, McAliskey and Bradley have much more experience and physical development made at the minute and they are some of the players he will be fighting it out with.

No it isn't. If you're good enough, you're old enough, it's that simple.  Doesn't matter what age or height you are.
If he performs, then he should play.

That's complete bullshit. Age, height and physical development do matter. They matter hugely now. How many 20 year olds are starting for the top teams now? You can cite guys like Mullin, Clifford, O'Shea etc but they are all big physical, athletic players. We need to be patient and careful with Canavan.


I've already said if Canavan performs then he will play. But you're putting some amount of expectation on a 20 year old who has played one Championhsip game. We need to be careful with him. We have seasoned performers like McAliskey, Bradley, McCurry etc there who are a lot further on in their physical development and Canavan will have pressure on him to earn that jersey. If he performs he will play but he is certainly at a disadvantage when it comes to his size, height and power at present. He will take another couple of years to really develop the type of physical frame needed at this level.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

Age is relevant. Not too many counties with 20/21 year old s starting for them.

Size is very relevant. Look at the top counties now and tell us  how many players under 5ft10 line out for them now. The game has changed an awful lot over the past 20/30 years.

Canavan is a fantastic talent but he has it all to prove and we must be careful in our expectations and how we manage him. There's a lot of competition in his position now so he will need to be delivering to start and I think you are gone way overboard on a young talent who has only played one Championship game.

Guys like McCurry, McAliskey and Bradley have much more experience and physical development made at the minute and they are some of the players he will be fighting it out with.

No it isn't. If you're good enough, you're old enough, it's that simple.  Doesn't matter what age or height you are.
If he performs, then he should play.

That's complete bullshit. Age, height and physical development do matter. They matter hugely now. How many 20 year olds are starting for the top teams now? You can cite guys like Mullin, Clifford, O'Shea etc but they are all big physical, athletic players. We need to be patient and careful with Canavan.


I've already said if Canavan performs then he will play. But you're putting some amount of expectation on a 20 year old who has played one Championhsip game. We need to be careful with him. We have seasoned performers like McAliskey, Bradley, McCurry etc there who are a lot further on in their physical development and Canavan will have pressure on him to earn that jersey. If he performs he will play but he is certainly at a disadvantage when it comes to his size, height and power at present. He will take another couple of years to really develop the type of physical frame needed at this level.

No it isn't. Why do you need to be "careful" with him? Is he going to get hurt by a big shoulder barge off a big strong player just because hes so young and so small Wise up.
He's performing at club, county u20 and now county senior. If he was so "slight" and only "20/21" he wouldn't be there in the first place, but he's good enough, so he is there, and will be a mainstay of the team if he performs consistently. It's that simple.

[Angelo]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

1) Age is irrelevant.
2) His da was "slight" too, as was Gooch Cooper etc etc. Means nothing.

Age is relevant. Not too many counties with 20/21 year old s starting for them.

Size is very relevant. Look at the top counties now and tell us  how many players under 5ft10 line out for them now. The game has changed an awful lot over the past 20/30 years.

Canavan is a fantastic talent but he has it all to prove and we must be careful in our expectations and how we manage him. There's a lot of competition in his position now so he will need to be delivering to start and I think you are gone way overboard on a young talent who has only played one Championship game.

Guys like McCurry, McAliskey and Bradley have much more experience and physical development made at the minute and they are some of the players he will be fighting it out with.

No it isn't. If you're good enough, you're old enough, it's that simple.  Doesn't matter what age or height you are.
If he performs, then he should play.

That's complete bullshit. Age, height and physical development do matter. They matter hugely now. How many 20 year olds are starting for the top teams now? You can cite guys like Mullin, Clifford, O'Shea etc but they are all big physical, athletic players. We need to be patient and careful with Canavan.


I've already said if Canavan performs then he will play. But you're putting some amount of expectation on a 20 year old who has played one Championhsip game. We need to be careful with him. We have seasoned performers like McAliskey, Bradley, McCurry etc there who are a lot further on in their physical development and Canavan will have pressure on him to earn that jersey. If he performs he will play but he is certainly at a disadvantage when it comes to his size, height and power at present. He will take another couple of years to really develop the type of physical frame needed at this level.

No it isn't. Why do you need to be "careful" with him? Is he going to get hurt by a big shoulder barge off a big strong player just because hes so young and so small Wise up.
He's performing at club, county u20 and now county senior. If he was so "slight" and only "20/21" he wouldn't be there in the first place, but he's good enough, so he is there, and will be a mainstay of the team if he performs consistently. It's that simple.

You need to be careful with him as he's 20 years old. He has played one Championship game for his county. He is slight and he is only 20. He was there because we had big issues in our forward line. If you look at the Championship this year, we could have McShane, McAliskey and Brennan returning to action as inside forward options, we could have Paul Donaghy there who was the top marksman in the club Championship, we could have a fit Mark Bradley back. All these guys are older and more physically developed than Canavan.

We will see on Canavan but there will be serious competition for places next year and Canavan is a young lad who has not put 200 minutes of senior Championship action under his belt yet therefore we need to be careful how we manage him in both physical terms and expectations. He's a talent we ought to be excited about but there are more senior and proven performers there as of yet.