Move by FAI & UEFA to remember Loughinisland victims ...

[Hardy]

Well, since people of certain political persuasions have no trouble positing an equivalence between the GAA and the Orange Order, I don't suppose they'd be particularly rigorous in selecting their imagined equivalent of Loughinisland.

[ardal]

I agree with the sentiments expressed here regarding the justification for this remembrance, but as there are those who want an equivalent other for the Orange order, may I bring this discussion to  a close by saying that the Orange order were indiscriminately murdered; with support from the powers to be, in Croke park on a sunday afternoon in September in 2004

[Forever Green]

Well done to the FAI on this

[brokencrossbar1]

I agree with the sentiments expressed here regarding the justification for this remembrance, but as there are those who want an equivalent other for the Orange order, may I bring this discussion to  a close by saying that the Orange order were indiscriminately murdered; with support from the powers to be, in Croke park on a sunday afternoon in September in 2004

If by Orange order you mean Armagh then I think you're wrong...   Myles hit it straight dead right.  As someone who has vivid memories of that night I think it is very fitting that the event be remembered in this one off fashion.

[snoopdog]

Well done to the FAI and UEFA. I remember vivedly celebrating in Warrenpoint square after that famous victory, then the word spread around and the look of shock on peoples faces to what had happened only a few miles away in our own county. everytime i see Houghtons goal i think of Loughinisland.  Its only right these innocent victims are remembered.
May they rest in peace

[deiseach]

everytime i see Houghtons goal i think of Loughinisland.

Jaysus. You can do without that

[Leo]

People were murdered while they watched their team play on TV. The team is remembering these supporters on the anniversary of the massacre. Simple as that and only controversial because some muppets declared it so. No more different than Liverpool remembering hillsborough.

How do you know they were watching "their team" on TV?
I knew one of the victims - and he had no interest whatever in soccer - this was his local where he went regularly - there could have been darts or kickboxing on for all he cared - he went for his quiet pint and a bit of chat and was brutally murdered.
It is a tenuous and I have to say one-sided attitude that gives rise to this FAI move, however well iintentioned.
A decent man who believed he was serving his community by joining the police was murdered on the same day. Who can say whther he had an interest in this "beautiful game" or otherwise.
How many of those supporting this gesture even know he died or remember his name?
We can skew our sense of injustice so easily in this tiny island without regard to our neighbours.
I don't blame the relatives; if I was related I think I would (a) welcome this gesture and (b) ask those who are behind it if they would care to remember others as well.

[glens abu]

People were murdered while they watched their team play on TV. The team is remembering these supporters on the anniversary of the massacre. Simple as that and only controversial because some muppets declared it so. No more different than Liverpool remembering hillsborough.

How do you know they were watching "their team" on TV?
I knew one of the victims - and he had no interest whatever in soccer - this was his local where he went regularly - there could have been darts or kickboxing on for all he cared - he went for his quiet pint and a bit of chat and was brutally murdered.
It is a tenuous and I have to say one-sided attitude that gives rise to this FAI move, however well iintentioned.
A decent man who believed he was serving his community by joining the police was murdered on the same day. Who can say whther he had an interest in this "beautiful game" or otherwise.
How many of those supporting this gesture even know he died or remember his name?
We can skew our sense of injustice so easily in this tiny island without regard to our neighbours.
I don't blame the relatives; if I was related I think I would (a) welcome this gesture and (b) ask those who are behind it if they would care to remember others as well.

Who are you talking about when you say the people behind it?The only people behind it are the families and their legal team,as for the cop that was shot I am sure he will be remembered by those who care for him and sure he has the George Cross. 

[deiseach]

How do you know they were watching "their team" on TV?

The perpetrators of the killings certainly thought people were there watching "their team".

For the 24 fans gathered in Heights Bar in the quiet village of Loughinisland in County Down, the cheering was followed by carnage. Two men walked into the pub and sprayed the room with bullets, killing six and wounding five, and then fled laughing. The Ulster Volunteer Force, a Protestant terrorist group, later claimed it had carried out the attack. It chose the pub only because it knew that those gathered to support Ireland's team would be Catholic.

The people who died in that pub would not have died had the Republic not been playing in the World Cup that night. It seems appropriate to remember this on the same day eighteen years later that the Republic play Italy again in a major championship

[nifan]

I don't blame the relatives; if I was related I think I would (a) welcome this gesture and (b) ask those who are behind it if they would care to remember others as well.

Leo, why do we always have to open these things out to remember everyone - there is a very distinct link in this case to a particular incident.

[rosnarun]

It just goes a tiny way to make up for the decision to Mark the death of the the Diana spenser a member of the English royal Family.
i could never support the FAI's team after that ,
They knew what side there bread was buttered on then  just as they know now,
with young nationalist from  the 6 counties, Mclean et al ,choosing to play for the FAI. this is an attempt to Drive a further wedge between 'Us and Them'

[Myles Na G.]

People were murdered while they watched their team play on TV. The team is remembering these supporters on the anniversary of the massacre. Simple as that and only controversial because some muppets declared it so. No more different than Liverpool remembering hillsborough.

How do you know they were watching "their team" on TV?
I knew one of the victims - and he had no interest whatever in soccer - this was his local where he went regularly - there could have been darts or kickboxing on for all he cared - he went for his quiet pint and a bit of chat and was brutally murdered.
It is a tenuous and I have to say one-sided attitude that gives rise to this FAI move, however well iintentioned.
A decent man who believed he was serving his community by joining the police was murdered on the same day. Who can say whther he had an interest in this "beautiful game" or otherwise.
How many of those supporting this gesture even know he died or remember his name?
We can skew our sense of injustice so easily in this tiny island without regard to our neighbours.
I don't blame the relatives; if I was related I think I would (a) welcome this gesture and (b) ask those who are behind it if they would care to remember others as well.

Who are you talking about when you say the people behind it?The only people behind it are the families and their legal team,as for the cop that was shot I am sure he will be remembered by those who care for him and sure he has the George Cross.

I would normally applaud this decision by the FAI, but when I find myself in agreement with hate-filled merchants like your self, instinctively I rush to embrace the opposing arguments. Down with this sort of thing.

[dillinger]

,as for the cop that was shot I am sure he will be remembered by those who care for him and sure he has the George Cross.
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A low nasty comment. Shame on you.

[glens abu]

,as for the cop that was shot I am sure he will be remembered by those who care for him and sure he has the George Cross.

A low nasty comment. Shame on you.
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Catch yourself on,what have I to be ashamed about?I was replying to Leo that the only people who asked for this gesture of the FAI were the families of those who were murdered in Loughinisland by the UVF in collusion with the RUC.He asked why nobody was remembering the RUC man who was killed that day and I said that he would be remembered by his family and friends,he also has his name on a plaque in Knock headquarters,in the RUC memorial garden and has been awarded the George Cross for being a member of that organisation.Sorry if your offended but I think the Loughinisland families just want their loved ones remembered in a small way on the 18th anniversary of their murder.

[glens abu]

People were murdered while they watched their team play on TV. The team is remembering these supporters on the anniversary of the massacre. Simple as that and only controversial because some muppets declared it so. No more different than Liverpool remembering hillsborough.

How do you know they were watching "their team" on TV?
I knew one of the victims - and he had no interest whatever in soccer - this was his local where he went regularly - there could have been darts or kickboxing on for all he cared - he went for his quiet pint and a bit of chat and was brutally murdered.
It is a tenuous and I have to say one-sided attitude that gives rise to this FAI move, however well iintentioned.
A decent man who believed he was serving his community by joining the police was murdered on the same day. Who can say whther he had an interest in this "beautiful game" or otherwise.
How many of those supporting this gesture even know he died or remember his name?
We can skew our sense of injustice so easily in this tiny island without regard to our neighbours.
I don't blame the relatives; if I was related I think I would (a) welcome this gesture and (b) ask those who are behind it if they would care to remember others as well.

Who are you talking about when you say the people behind it?The only people behind it are the families and their legal team,as for the cop that was shot I am sure he will be remembered by those who care for him and sure he has the George Cross.

I would normally applaud this decision by the FAI, but when I find myself in agreement with hate-filled merchants like your self, instinctively I rush to embrace the opposing arguments. Down with this sort of thing.

Hate-filled?I have no love whatsoever for RUC,British army,or their government who have murdered many friends and a relative as I know you have no love for the IRA and other Republicans,if this makes me hate-filled you need to have a look in the mirror.