Antrim Football Thread

[Saffrongael]

What managers are out there looking for roles? Hearing from a few clubs they're struggling to fill the posts.

I can imagine , most clubs in Antrim and Derry both seem to be wanting managers

Hard one to sort some clubs may need to look internally

It's whether (unfortunately) club players will accept an internal member to take the team..

 

Club players would need to take a serious look at themselves if they wouldn't accept a club member running their team.

It's overplayed, that's just the line you get from fellas that are going about the place getting paid or the clubs doing the paying.

[NatSoSaff]

Am I being naive or is it not typically an independent business man/club member with a few pound who is keen to support the club by financing some of these paid external coaches/managers? I can't see how cash flow would come legitimately through the clubs books to them.

[SoloAndGo]

St Galls appointed internally (which should almost always be the case) and it caused players to walk away for those years

If you can appoint internally then it something that should be the first option

It should be the case if you have clubmen suitable for the role. Theres club that don't have any suitable to manage senior football. Or go elsewhere for $$ but do you blame them?

[Saffron_sam20]

St Galls appointed internally (which should almost always be the case) and it caused players to walk away for those years

If you can appoint internally then it something that should be the first option

It should be the case if you have clubmen suitable for the role. Theres club that don't have any suitable to manage senior football. Or go elsewhere for $$ but do you blame them?

Or maybe lads in the club don't want the hassle? Family members, friends sons etc all in the team people who you may have loyalty/ soft spot for. If you're taking another club there's no real loyalty which in turn gets the best out of players. Prob not how it should be but it's a reality in many clubs. It's too simplistic to say it's simply money.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

"Hands up who'd do it for nothing" would be an interesting litmus test.

[Hoof Hearted]

Senior and intermediate champions this year had internal managers.

[ck]

Senior and intermediate champions this year had internal managers.

Yes but they had outside coaches. My own club have always had internal managers but they are usually not coaches so they hire in some expertise in that area. Has worked well at times.
I'm not a fan of paid Managers but I'm a realist and sometimes you have to appoint the best man. Players demand and expect this.

[BigGreenField]

"Hands up who'd do it for nothing" would be an interesting litmus test.

Or hands up who'd do it , paid or not.

A serious commitment, players have high (too high?) expectations and sometimes expect some combination of Mick o'dwyer and Mickey Harte walking in.

I think most in-house managers are fairly well got by their own but very challenging gig at all levels.

[marty34]

Senior and intermediate champions this year had internal managers.

Yes but they had outside coaches. My own club have always had internal managers but they are usually not coaches so they hire in some expertise in that area. Has worked well at times.
I'm not a fan of paid Managers but I'm a realist and sometimes you have to appoint the best man. Players demand and expect this.

But who decides on what the 'best man' is?

[ck]

Senior and intermediate champions this year had internal managers.

Yes but they had outside coaches. My own club have always had internal managers but they are usually not coaches so they hire in some expertise in that area. Has worked well at times.
I'm not a fan of paid Managers but I'm a realist and sometimes you have to appoint the best man. Players demand and expect this.

But who decides on what the 'best man' is?

Experience, track record, player feedback. It' not hard to measure against the inside man. Players have a lot of power these days and increasingly they are involved in the selection process. Players in my own club have actually gone out looking a manager in the past.

[marty34]

Senior and intermediate champions this year had internal managers.

Yes but they had outside coaches. My own club have always had internal managers but they are usually not coaches so they hire in some expertise in that area. Has worked well at times.
I'm not a fan of paid Managers but I'm a realist and sometimes you have to appoint the best man. Players demand and expect this.

But who decides on what the 'best man' is?

Experience, track record, player feedback. It' not hard to measure against the inside man. Players have a lot of power these days and increasingly they are involved in the selection process. Players in my own club have actually gone out looking a manager in the past.

My issue with that is the amount of 'managers' who are moving from one club to the next, to the next, year after year....and haven't improved a team a bit. Just on the circuit.

This is what I mean by who decides?

The senior players and/or committee.

Regardless, does that manager make your team better or is it just because he was with X last year and Y the year before.

[Belfast GAA man]

Of there are 10 paid outside managers in division 1 how many have actually won anything as a manager? 1 or 2 ?
Bluffers every where . Clubs need To wise up

[NatSoSaff]

Of there are 10 paid outside managers in division 1 how many have actually won anything as a manager? 1 or 2 ?
Bluffers every where . Clubs need To wise up

To be fair I'm pretty sure they've all won championships and/or leagues elsewhere. (Or an all Ireland in Pete McGraths case!)

There's a few in division 2 that haven't done too much to justify big bucks though.

I would be shocked if anyone in division 3 is getting paid.

[Belfast GAA man]

Wat does Toal done well at Lisburn and Paddies mean ?
Casidy did well mean ?

[Belfast GAA man]

You seem to know the circuit better than me
Are more clubs using their own people again fro your summary ? Wising up hopefully