Karl Lacey gaaboard.com Footballer of the year

Started by Dinny Breen, September 21, 2011, 03:23:43 PM

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Who was your footballer of the year...

Colm Cooper
3 (3.8%)
Darran O'Sullivan
7 (8.8%)
Bryan Sheehan
4 (5%)
Paul Flynn
1 (1.3%)
Alan Brogan
20 (25%)
Bernard Brogan
2 (2.5%)
Karl Lacey
29 (36.3%)
Stephen Cluxton
7 (8.8%)
Andy Moran
7 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 80

Voting closed: September 28, 2011, 03:23:43 PM

Ciarrai_thuaidh

I'm genuinely stumped by the POTY this year. Alan Brogan doesn't deserve it (but will prob get it)..he was anonymous in the semi final and poor enough in the final aswell. Cluxton doesn't deserve it either. Karl Lacey would def have been nominated in a world where people picking these things have a clue (Brian McGuigan 2005 All Star anyone?)..but anyway. It doesn't really make a huge difference, but they'll prob give it to Brogan.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

heffo

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 13, 2011, 05:17:55 PM
Alan Brogan doesn't deserve it (but will prob get it)..he was anonymous in the semi final and poor enough in the final aswell.

From my post a couple of pages back, in the semi final v Donegal he was on the balll 25 times and gave the ball away once. With 13 players hanging out of him.

In the final v Kerry, he scored two points and made the goal, plus he was in possession 23 times and gave it away once.

He had more possession than any other Dublin player throughout the Championship, directly created 3-8 and scored 0-13 from a withdrawn role.

A worthy winner imo.

AZOffaly

I'd be inclined to agree heffo. Karl Lacey was my pick for it, but if it's to go to a Dub, I'd pick Brogan. I thought he stepped up for them this year, moreso than d'brudder.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: heffo on October 13, 2011, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 13, 2011, 05:17:55 PM
Alan Brogan doesn't deserve it (but will prob get it)..he was anonymous in the semi final and poor enough in the final aswell.

From my post a couple of pages back, in the semi final v Donegal he was on the balll 25 times and gave the ball away once. With 13 players hanging out of him.

In the final v Kerry, he scored two points and made the goal, plus he was in possession 23 times and gave it away once.

He had more possession than any other Dublin player throughout the Championship, directly created 3-8 and scored 0-13 from a withdrawn role.

A worthy winner imo.

That stat is not giving a clear picture if thats the case...he kicked a couple of terrible wides in that game. Being on the ball (i.e: in possession) doesn't mean anything in Gaelic football, its what you do with it..
"He made the goal"..what does that mean? He gave a simple handpass to a guy who did the real hard bit and finished it?..So what? He kicked one great score in the final, but apart from that had little impact on the game in my opinion and he certainly had little impact on the semi final if you watch it again.

I'm not looking for an argument and It doesn't really matter anyway as there is no outstanding candidate like there usually is, so you can make a case for a few players. I really hope that Kevin McMenamin gets some recognition in Dublin (or maybe a start next year?) as his contributions in the semi and final are what got Dublin over the line both days really.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

imtommygunn

There is a term used by some of those RTE pundits - "shot selection"...

Alan Brogan's, independent of any stats, in the first half of that Donegal game was brutal. In my view he had a bit of a stinker and based on that shouldn't get player of the year.

He was brilliant rest of the year and made a big impact on the final but in my view one(really) bad game does not merit inclusion for player of the year. Cluxton / Lacey.

Zulu

I'd strongly disagree with those saying brogan had a poor semi final he was very good in fact. The way Donegal played meant that all the Dublin forwards had it tough but he saw plenty of ball and did a lot of good with it. I wouldn't hang a forward for having a few wides. He was also pretty good in the final and certainly better than average in the QF. A worthy winner IMO.

ross4life

I bet Alan Brogan would be the first to admit he played better other years & didn't get nominated for POTY & no doubt he'll thank his team mates for this years award.
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

imtommygunn

It's a funny year for it - there were no real standouts.

Brogan, in my opinion, shouldn't get it but that is just my opinion. He definitely was not player of the year material in the semi final though.

Darren O'Sullivan was very influential as was Karl Lacey. It was a real shame seeing him go off in the semi final. I don't think we'd be having this discussion had he not.

Cluxton's coolness, perhaps robot likeness, under pressure and his ability to make life so much easier for dublin midfielders with his kickouts makes him, in my view,a better option than Brogan.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: ross4life on October 13, 2011, 10:27:17 PM
I bet Alan Brogan would be the first to admit he played better other years & didn't get nominated for POTY & no doubt he'll thank his team mates for this years award.

No stand out candidate this year. Brogan was good but not great. Still might be enough for him to pick it up seeing as Dublin won the AI.

BennyCake



Michael Schmeichal

#101
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 01:32:13 PM
Cluxton will get it. Feckin' joke.

Hey Benny.
Dublin:All Ireland Football Champions 2011

Hows about them for apples? you Orchard c**t!

BennyCake

Quote from: Michael Schmeichal on October 14, 2011, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 01:32:13 PM
Cluxton will get it. Feckin' joke.

Hey Benny.
Dublin:All Ireland Football Champions 2011

Hows about them for apples? you Orchard c**t!

To be honest, that attitude is the same that I witnessed in Croke Park this year from Dubs like yourself. You disgraced our game, and you disgraced your county. Now you've just confirmed it to everyone again what the Dubs are like.

heffo

Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Michael Schmeichal on October 14, 2011, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 01:32:13 PM
Cluxton will get it. Feckin' joke.

Hey Benny.
Dublin:All Ireland Football Champions 2011

Hows about them for apples? you Orchard c**t!

To be honest, that attitude is the same that I witnessed in Croke Park this year from Dubs like yourself. You disgraced our game, and you disgraced your county. Now you've just confirmed it to everyone again what the Dubs are like.

Earth to Benny: Get a life.

Declan

QuoteNow you've just confirmed it to everyone again what the Dubs are like.

Yep we're all the same ???