All-Ireland Senior Football final - Kerry v Dublin 18/09/2011

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heffo

Quote from: passedit on September 07, 2011, 08:17:01 AM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on September 06, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
QuoteKerry cybercackles surely on the way, although they no doubt will be slow to refer to the 1979 AIF suspension which so benefitted them.

Quoteand that is even before the Kerry caterwailing/ Peigsayering  begins.

Am delighted Dublin will have a full team as there are no excuses and no whinging IF we beat them. (Big f**king IF for us to win but you gotta love it)

Was a bit worried how we would have dealt with O'Gara, but Connolly may suit our backs who I might add are aging and slow  ;)

As for the CCC , they are a shambles, the Tommy Walsh "accident" where he nailed the referee seems to be great craic in hurling and GAA circles at the moment. Yet Tomas O'Se served 8 weeks for a nothing slap earlier in the year, oh wait that's caterwailing/ Peigsayering  and we can't be seen to be going that route.

Mike you're right and the Top Brass can't be moaning about violence in club games if they only enforce rules when it suits them. This is an attitude which pervades from junior clubs asking refs to change reds to two yellas* (especially at underage, learn them early) right through to this shit.

*And Kerry chairmen marching on to the field at half time in club championship to plead for St Dara.

I'd be more concerned personally why the CCCC keep appointing sub-standard officials to big games and not promote/demote as required.

The conditions were laid by the fourth minute by the ref in the Donegal v Dublin game to allow Donegal behave the way they did at every free kick.

rrhf

Ther PR job done on this by Dublin sympathetic hacks was breathtaking, however I would expecty some objectivity on here - even among Dublin fans.  To me Kerry men in 2003 refused to take responsibility for their role in the semi final in  2003, and it cost them 2 more all ireland final defeats mainly for their bad manners.   

Sandino

I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.

Also can you imagine if it had been Ricey or Galvin who got off in this manner, not that would have been possible because of who they are. There are double standards at play here bigtime!

I don't care who wins the All Ireland I just hope the ref is now the main talking point after the game. I think this call will only benefit Kerry as it will lift them with a feeling of injustice.
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Canalman

Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.

Also can you imagine if it had been Ricey or Galvin who got off in this manner, not that would have been possible because of who they are. There are double standards at play here bigtime!

I don't care who wins the All Ireland I just hope the ref is now the main talking point after the game. I think this call will only benefit Kerry as it will lift them with a feeling of injustice.

Will try and ferret out the free count in the 1995 AIF, almost sure it was 3:1 in favour of Tyrone.

Don't forget that Paul Galvin in 2008 had his suspension HALVED ( yes, read it again .....HALVED) allowing him to play in the AIF.

This conspiracy nonsense is just imo a snide way to once again give the Dubs a good cyberkicking for getting to the AIF and not going down in flames after a classic semi final.

Still haven't forgotten Jack O'Shea's pickup in the AIF 1985 missed by the referee which stopped our comeback in its tracks.
Not to mention the "penalty" awarded to Tyrone in 2005 as a result of a perfect tackle by Stephen O'Shaughnessy.
There are others.

Point I am trying to make is that Dublin have had their share of misfortune with officialdom to counter their fortune ( ie Diarmuid Connolly who I will once again say is lucky).

OverThePostsAWide

McMenamin and Galvin got off with plenty. Eventually the tables turned.

heffo

Quote from: Canalman on September 07, 2011, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.

Also can you imagine if it had been Ricey or Galvin who got off in this manner, not that would have been possible because of who they are. There are double standards at play here bigtime!

I don't care who wins the All Ireland I just hope the ref is now the main talking point after the game. I think this call will only benefit Kerry as it will lift them with a feeling of injustice.

Will try and ferret out the free count in the 1995 AIF, almost sure it was 3:1 in favour of Tyrone.

Don't forget that Paul Galvin in 2008 had his suspension HALVED ( yes, read it again .....HALVED) allowing him to play in the AIF.

This conspiracy nonsense is just imo a snide way to once again give the Dubs a good cyberkicking for getting to the AIF and not going down in flames after a classic semi final.

Still haven't forgotten Jack O'Shea's pickup in the AIF 1985 missed by the referee which stopped our comeback in its tracks.
Not to mention the "penalty" awarded to Tyrone in 2005 as a result of a perfect tackle by Stephen O'Shaughnessy.
There are others.

Point I am trying to make is that Dublin have had their share of misfortune with officialdom to counter their fortune ( ie Diarmuid Connolly who I will once again say is lucky).

Bang on Canalman - Galvin has his suspension halved, McMenamin got off for dropping his knees on an Armagh players throat due to the DRA in 2005 but it makes for a better story for the Dubs to be getting all the luck!

Hound

Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.


A load of nonsense. If Canavan had put his toe under the ball, Tyrone would have got the draw, and would have had plenty to thank the ref for.

You havent heard about Dublin needing an All Ireland since 1995, because we havent been in one since then! Every time Mayo get to an All Ireland, there's loads of talk about how great it would be for them to win it. If it was Kildare or Donegal against Kerry, they'd be saying how great it would be for the GAA for them to win it.

The people saying all this don't matter a damn anyway. And the refs certainly arent influenced. To date in the championship Dublin have been awarded 67 frees for personal fouls. Their opposition has been awarded 98 frees for personal fouls. If these refs are supposed to be favouring the Dubs, they're doing a damn shabby job.

OverThePostsAWide

And to bring McMenamin and Galvin together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HJQFEqKkrw

Apparently nothing was done because the referee put in his report "clear stroke with the hand" and the CCCC thought it was a typo and couldn't act.

I would have given him a life ban for that shit.

brokencrossbar1

It'll be some craic when we get down to talking football!  So Connolly got his red card rescinded as the ref didn't ask him his name?  I could have gotten away with a helluva lot more over the years, they all knew my name and the most recent booking the ref said to me "jeez Gavin I should be sending you off for that" as he wrote my initials in his book without asking ;D

All this BS about the GAA needing a Dublin AI win is sickening.  Why do we need an AI win?  They have made 4 of the 6 AI finals in both codes at minor, u21 and senior level.  They have become probably the only real true dual county outside of Cork at the minute.  They are getting better by the year at all levels and have won 2-3 AI clubs in the last 10 years.  They have a squadron of full time paid coaches going round the circuit of clubs, Parnells were able to entice one of my own ex club mates to join them with promises of a job etc. What f**king more help do they need?  A win for some of the weaker counties in my eyes would be more beneficial. 

I think that Kerry will win as tehy have the forward unit to unhinge the Dublin defence and they showed against Cork that size in the MF area is not an issue for them.  Dublin will be hard to beat but I think that they have a few weaknesses defensively wise in the HB line in particular and Declan and Darren O'Sullivan will exploit that.

passedit

Quote from: heffo on September 07, 2011, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Canalman on September 07, 2011, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.

Also can you imagine if it had been Ricey or Galvin who got off in this manner, not that would have been possible because of who they are. There are double standards at play here bigtime!

I don't care who wins the All Ireland I just hope the ref is now the main talking point after the game. I think this call will only benefit Kerry as it will lift them with a feeling of injustice.

Will try and ferret out the free count in the 1995 AIF, almost sure it was 3:1 in favour of Tyrone.

Don't forget that Paul Galvin in 2008 had his suspension HALVED ( yes, read it again .....HALVED) allowing him to play in the AIF.

This conspiracy nonsense is just imo a snide way to once again give the Dubs a good cyberkicking for getting to the AIF and not going down in flames after a classic semi final.

Still haven't forgotten Jack O'Shea's pickup in the AIF 1985 missed by the referee which stopped our comeback in its tracks.
Not to mention the "penalty" awarded to Tyrone in 2005 as a result of a perfect tackle by Stephen O'Shaughnessy.
There are others.

Point I am trying to make is that Dublin have had their share of misfortune with officialdom to counter their fortune ( ie Diarmuid Connolly who I will once again say is lucky).

Bang on Canalman - Galvin has his suspension halved, McMenamin got off for dropping his knees on an Armagh players throat due to the DRA in 2005 but it makes for a better story for the Dubs to be getting all the luck!

That's my point Heffo. NOBODY wants to take their medicine, when the top brass facilitate the elite with this three monkeys shit and all the stunts pulled by our mutual friend in Cork and his wannabees over the years, it's no wonder no one saw that young lad in San Fran being hospitalised. It's part of our culture to evade responsibility. Now I have some sympathy with Connolly and he was unlucky but he struck and was caught striking end of story. I hope Dublin beat Kerry out the gate but this is wrong and anybody who can't see its wrong well I dunno.
Don't Panic

muppet

Dublin winning Sam would be no better for the Gaa than Mayo, Donegal, Antrim or any other county barring Kerry. It would, however, be fantastic for newspaper sales in their biggest market.

The default anti-Dublin position of many Gaa supporters (including some of my own family) is illogical (Meath and certain rivals have an excuse) but is probably rooted in our troubled history somewhere and almost certainly has nothing to do with Gaa.
MWWSI 2017

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Hound on September 07, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.


A load of nonsense. If Canavan had put his toe under the ball, Tyrone would have got the draw, and would have had plenty to thank the ref for.

What a load of horsedung!  :P What do you think Canavan is, some manner of magical contortionist? He played the ball totally within the rules (and his physical capability at the time), which is all that should be necessary, not executing gyrating gymnastics as he's propelled towards the turf (just because the ref is incompetent)!
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screenexile

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 07, 2011, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 07, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Sandino on September 07, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
I may have to go and get myself seen to after this but I agree with Mike! The last time we heard all this crap about Dublin needing an All Ireland was in 1995 and we all know how the big calls went in that game.


A load of nonsense. If Canavan had put his toe under the ball, Tyrone would have got the draw, and would have had plenty to thank the ref for.

What a load of horsedung!  :P What do you think Canavan is, some manner of magical contortionist? He played the ball totally within the rules (and his physical capability at the time), which is all that should be necessary, not executing gyrating gymnastics as he's propelled towards the turf (just because the ref is incompetent)!

Not that I am one renound for sticking up for Tyrone but the 2 big calls of the day were Redmond's sending off and Canavan's 'touching the ball on the ground' . . . the ref got both calls wrong!

sheamy


GalwayBayBoy

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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 07, 2011, 01:16:19 PM
All this BS about the GAA needing a Dublin AI win is sickening.  Why do we need an AI win?  They have made 4 of the 6 AI finals in both codes at minor, u21 and senior level.  They have become probably the only real true dual county outside of Cork at the minute. 

*Ahem*

You're forgetting some county that has already won both a football and a hurling All-Ireland this year. Not to mention going for a 3rd next weekend. Dublin and Cork have yet to win one. ;)