1981 remembered

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Some of you Provos better make your way and find Danny Morrison, he has tied himself up in knots with his lying ! Ha ha

Crawl back under your rock, loyalist scum. Happy New Year!

[Trout]

Some of you Provos better make your way and find Danny Morrison, he has tied himself up in knots with his lying ! Ha ha

Crawl back under your rock, loyalist scum. Happy New Year!

You go back to your shack in Armagh.

[Oraisteach]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

[Myles Na G.]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

But he is right about Danny Morrison tying himself up in knots. Danny probably doesn't know which of his versions of events is the correct one by this stage.

[ardal]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

But he is right about Danny Morrison tying himself up in knots. Danny probably doesn't know which of his versions of events is the correct one by this stage.

I must be way off on this one. Suggest, propose, hypothetical, FORMULATE, extrapolate, guarantee, you're talking about how one phrases things 25 years after an event, and then how they phrase it again 30 years after. It looks like pedantics to me

[Myles Na G.]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

But he is right about Danny Morrison tying himself up in knots. Danny probably doesn't know which of his versions of events is the correct one by this stage.

I must be way off on this one. Suggest, propose, hypothetical, FORMULATE, extrapolate, guarantee, you're talking about how one phrases things 25 years after an event, and then how they phrase it again 30 years after. It looks like pedantics to me

In one version of events, he says that the British government hadn't even come close to proposing a deal. In an earlier version of events, he says that he met with various people to discuss the deal the British government had put on the table. That's not semantics. That's tying yourself up in knots.

[lynchbhoy]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

But he is right about Danny Morrison tying himself up in knots. Danny probably doesn't know which of his versions of events is the correct one by this stage.

I must be way off on this one. Suggest, propose, hypothetical, FORMULATE, extrapolate, guarantee, you're talking about how one phrases things 25 years after an event, and then how they phrase it again 30 years after. It looks like pedantics to me

In one version of events, he says that the British government hadn't even come close to proposing a deal. In an earlier version of events, he says that he met with various people to discuss the deal the British government had put on the table. That's not semantics. That's tying yourself up in knots.

your bitterness stops you from seeing the reality here.
Morrisons sentiments at the time were that there was no deal worth talking about initially - not that the british hadnt muted some kind of offer (as happens with making deals- there is a lot of to and fro stuff).

you will continue to see what you want to see. the problem is your information (source) is badly twisted.
but I half reckon even if you heard the gospel truth - you would still refuse to listen to it !

[Myles Na G.]

Armagh?  Trout, I think you're swimming in the wrong stream.

Sorry about that, I don't which of us could be more insulted by his loyalist ignorance!   

But he is right about Danny Morrison tying himself up in knots. Danny probably doesn't know which of his versions of events is the correct one by this stage.

I must be way off on this one. Suggest, propose, hypothetical, FORMULATE, extrapolate, guarantee, you're talking about how one phrases things 25 years after an event, and then how they phrase it again 30 years after. It looks like pedantics to me

In one version of events, he says that the British government hadn't even come close to proposing a deal. In an earlier version of events, he says that he met with various people to discuss the deal the British government had put on the table. That's not semantics. That's tying yourself up in knots.

your bitterness stops you from seeing the reality here.
Morrisons sentiments at the time were that there was no deal worth talking about initially - not that the british hadnt muted some kind of offer (as happens with making deals- there is a lot of to and fro stuff).

you will continue to see what you want to see. the problem is your information (source) is badly twisted.
but I half reckon even if you heard the gospel truth - you would still refuse to listen to it !

You've some neck - in recent days you've been caught out making up stuff about the Cain data base and you haven't even the good manners to apologise. Shameless.

[Main Street]

Making stuff up??
Shameless??

[lynchbhoy]

Yer some laugh alright - a unionist/loyalist masquerading as a taig and you serve up that pathetic 'response'  !

As for that Cain sihte - well having read some reports myself and spotting their blatant innaccuracies ( or spin/bias whatever you want to call it) it showed that the report was not true to fact/reality.
Since then others have commented on here and in real life that the report/database is seriously flawed and innaccurate. So it's not just me.
Eg in relation to various Hunger strike 'tales' - cain's details are very wrong and having two ex hunger strikers and members of the family of a deceased hunger striker as my sources ( as well as my own memory) - well I know what I'd trust!
Are you to apologize to me now?
Unlikely given your lack of honour!

[Maguire01]

As for that Cain sihte - well having read some reports myself and spotting their blatant innaccuracies ( or spin/bias whatever you want to call it) it showed that the report was not true to fact/reality.
Since then others have commented on here and in real life that the report/database is seriously flawed and innaccurate. So it's not just me.
Eg in relation to various Hunger strike 'tales' - cain's details are very wrong and having two ex hunger strikers and members of the family of a deceased hunger striker as my sources ( as well as my own memory) - well I know what I'd trust!

Any chance of specific examples of inaccuracies or spin?

[mylestheslasher]

Danny Morrison lying through his teeth, imagine. These lads need to realise that the more lies you tell the more chance there is of getting caught out.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/12/31/danny-morrisons-position/

Republicans gave their lives for their fellow man, whilst 'Loyalist' scum like you were too busy jacking off to their library of porn mags - giving a toss, literally.

Never had Trout pegged as a Loyalist. Is that what you get tarred with now if you're anti-SF?

I'd be pretty sure he is. His disguise is good, i give him that. Who would suspect a loyalist being able to operate a pc and be capable of attempted wind ups. Unfortunately for him, this proves the theory of evolution which must be difficult for such inbreds to fathom.

[Myles Na G.]

Yer some laugh alright - a unionist/loyalist masquerading as a taig and you serve up that pathetic 'response'  !

As for that Cain sihte - well having read some reports myself and spotting their blatant innaccuracies ( or spin/bias whatever you want to call it) it showed that the report was not true to fact/reality.
Since then others have commented on here and in real life that the report/database is seriously flawed and innaccurate. So it's not just me.
Eg in relation to various Hunger strike 'tales' - cain's details are very wrong and having two ex hunger strikers and members of the family of a deceased hunger striker as my sources ( as well as my own memory) - well I know what I'd trust!
Are you to apologize to me now?
Unlikely given your lack of honour!

Why would I apologise when you've just repeated the offence? You've repeatedly termed the Cain database as 'discredited', when it seems that your only evidence for this is that 'others have commented' on it. You talk about 'blatant innacuracies' (sic) but don't say what these are or explain why they are inaccurate. You seem to think that just because you think something or say something, it must therefore be true. Like I said, some neck.

[lynchbhoy]

As for that Cain sihte - well having read some reports myself and spotting their blatant innaccuracies ( or spin/bias whatever you want to call it) it showed that the report was not true to fact/reality.
Since then others have commented on here and in real life that the report/database is seriously flawed and innaccurate. So it's not just me.
Eg in relation to various Hunger strike 'tales' - cain's details are very wrong and having two ex hunger strikers and members of the family of a deceased hunger striker as my sources ( as well as my own memory) - well I know what I'd trust!

Any chance of specific examples of inaccuracies or spin?

As I have said already - reports from the hunger strikes littered with glaring falsehoods from when I scanned through some of their stuff. Eg Brit gov not negotiating, men in comas when they weren't , decisions supposedly being made for the hunger strikers by the IRA army council etc etc and way more than that - those are just the bits I can be bothered to remember - and that's only the innaccuracies regarding the Hunger Strikes.
So will you give it a rest now and listen to folk who may know a bit more than your good self on such topics ( with the greatest of respect maguire) - myself and any person with bits of knowledge on some or various events in the history of the 40 years war - well myself and many more have found the list of cain 'stories' something akin to the brothers (very) grim!!!