Donegal v Dublin semi final 28-8-11

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Connolly and Dublin should appeal, defo dive, so slapstick I laughed at the time.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

[DUBSFORSAM1]

It is clear to see Connolly struck . . . the degree of force is debatable and Boyle's dive was scandallous but Connolly deserved to go just for being stupid enough to raise his hands.



As for the holier than thou attitude of the Dubs and how they play beautifully and don't goad players or dive or do anything untoward all I have to say is . . .  PAUL CASEY!!

Whatever about all those things being wrong and the fact they shouldn't happen every successful team has at least one player who is masterful in the dark arts and the Dubs are no different!!

Screen - A fraction of a 2nd earlier and you see Boyle make contact with Connollys face also so no doubt you think he should have gone??? 3 seconds later the Donegal No8 charges in and also shoves Connolly in the face so no doubt he should have got sent off then??

[Jinxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Forget about all the other surrounding incidents.
Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

[heffo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

No. It's not a strike.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Forget about all the other surrounding incidents.
Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

It was a push not a strike and if we give a red card for every contact with the head in the game it will be a 5 a side game.....

Do you think the other 2 Donegal players involved should have got red cards and if not why not?

[lynchbhoy]

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

I'd like to see the rules amended so that diving is a red card offence.
Connolly def was guilty of a 'striking action' - no matter how harmless  (sorry Heff !!)

I think that the rules also cater for the 'third man in' to an incident - cant rem if it is a yellow or a red card award though.
Rory Kavanagh deserved to get at least a yellow.
I'd have sent boyle off if I was reffing and then got banned for life as a ref, but diving drives me nuts.
However Dublin and most other counties have been guilty of this in the past.
No point in us all being hypocrites.

[Jinxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

No. It's not a strike.

So he's pushing yer mans face with his fist then?

[Hardy]

So he's pushing yer mans face with his fist then?

That's what I'd call it, Jinxy. But at what acceleration does a push become a strike, who defines that and who measures it? Grey area - down to interpretation. My interpretation is that it was about the harshest sending off I've seen this year. Compare it to Whelan on Crawford a few years ago, for instance. And yes, Connolly shouldn't have done it, but lads are pushing each other around the head/neck/shoulders all the time and never get done for it.

[Hardy]

I'd like to see the rules amended so that diving is a red card offence.

It's already a yellow card offence, but I don't think I've ever seen that applied, so what chance is there that refs would wave the red cad if that was the penalty? One of the biggest problems in the game, that remains unrecognised, never mind addressed, is the refusal of referees to apply the rules as written.

[heffo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

No. It's not a strike.

So he's pushing yer mans face with his fist then?

Yes.

[Jinxy]

If you're going to push someone, make sure your fingers are nicely splayed so everyone can see it's not a strike.
I have pushed, and occasionally punched, opposition players on a number of occasions.
I have never 'punshed' anyone however.

[HiMucker]

For all the dub posters complaining about the red card, I feel sympathy for connolly and dublin, him missing the final for a silly incident, mainly due to the donegal player winding him up first.  But he has to take responsiblity for his actions and he was stupid to put his hands anywhere near the face.  It was a red card, but the punishment of missing an AI final is harsh.  Jinxy and screen exile are clearly holding up the colour black but you are swearing blind it is white!  Please for the love of God except that the referee was correct in issuing the red card.  If he didnt you would all be on here today saying he was lucky to stay on.

[lynchbhoy]

It's already a yellow card offence, but I don't think I've ever seen that applied, so what chance is there that refs would wave the red cad if that was the penalty? One of the biggest problems in the game, that remains unrecognised, never mind addressed, is the refusal of referees to apply the rules as written.

yep. Look at the furore above from 'disgruntled' 'consumers'.
A game that isnt hollywood sends them all crazy with anger.

I have writen on the board a few times that whenever a ref does adhere to the rules, the stop/start game has everyone giving out about the official killing the flow and momentum and killing it as a spectacle.
Its the only way to get rid of cynical fouling and eradicate diving etc - apply the rules fully and properly.
I reffed once and I didnt, I let the gme flwo and allowed lads to hit and hit hard.
However there was no cynical fouling (lucky to be able to run in Div 10) and it wasnt a problem.
But the proper interpretation is what is required.
Both Dublin and Donegal would have had multiple men possibly red carded yesterday if this was the case. But then it would have been that the ref 'ruined the game as a spectacle ' !!

[Jinxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaI1PDU2xw

Incident begins about 13 seconds in. Its a red card.

FFS he pushed him in the shoulder with his fists closed and the Donegal player paused and then hit the deck clutching his face. What a cheat. In a game that was foul ridden that was a yellow card at best and both of them should have got one.

That's the second of two action from Connolly. The first one is a closed fist to the face. Red card.

Boyle comes running in from out of play to shoulder charge Connolly after free was given (should be a yellow card), both players push each other in the neck face area, Connolly pushes back in the shoulder area and Boyle collapses as if punched in the face by Tyson, Donegal No8 comes in from outside of play to shove Connolly in face.......If Connolly was a red then both Boyle and the No8 should have gone also as well....

Just look at that still picture above and answer this question with one word.
Did Connolly commit a red card offence?

No. It's not a strike.

So he's pushing yer mans face with his fist then?

Yes.

Ah I see.
Wrap it up lads, nothing to see here.