Election 2011 Offical Thread.

[Donnellys Hollow]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

I thought Enda wasn't on?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

I thought Enda wasn't on?

He was it seems, streamed live, and from the news I'm glad I didn't watch that either.

[Hound]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

There were some comments alright about Gilmore missing open goals, but I dont agree with that. I don't think any of the long serving politicians can have a go at another one about proper (excessive) payments received. They're all in the same boat about having done well in the past (Ministers particularly so). What's much more important is what they'll do about it in the future.

Gilmore did have a couple of snipes about the "lousy" government we've just had, I think he also said it was the worst govt in his lifetime. But I was impressed that he didnt overdo it, and he talked more about Labour than he did about FF.

The positive for Kenny having missed it is that evereyone will now assume the other two will destroy him in the next debates. So any kind of half decent performance should get a "better than expected" reportcard.

[An Gaeilgoir]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

There were some comments alright about Gilmore missing open goals, but I dont agree with that. I don't think any of the long serving politicians can have a go at another one about proper (excessive) payments received. They're all in the same boat about having done well in the past (Ministers particularly so). What's much more important is what they'll do about it in the future.

Gilmore did have a couple of snipes about the "lousy" government we've just had, I think he also said it was the worst govt in his lifetime. But I was impressed that he didnt overdo it, and he talked more about Labour than he did about FF.

The positive for Kenny having missed it is that evereyone will now assume the other two will destroy him in the next debates. So any kind of half decent performance should get a "better than expected" reportcard.

Agree with the Kenny comments, there won't be much pressure on him in the next debate, it could be a clever move to miss last night yet.

[Denn Forever]

Is the next debate the 5 leaders?  Even better for Kenny as everyone will try and get the SF leader, especially if its Adams.

I think Ó' Caoláin would do a better job and he is not the big bad bogey man that is Adams.

[muppet]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

There were some comments alright about Gilmore missing open goals, but I dont agree with that. I don't think any of the long serving politicians can have a go at another one about proper (excessive) payments received. They're all in the same boat about having done well in the past (Ministers particularly so). What's much more important is what they'll do about it in the future.

That was what you think was the open goal missed. Minister severance payments?

Are you aware that as a Nation we might have a small financial problem?

[Hound]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

There were some comments alright about Gilmore missing open goals, but I dont agree with that. I don't think any of the long serving politicians can have a go at another one about proper (excessive) payments received. They're all in the same boat about having done well in the past (Ministers particularly so). What's much more important is what they'll do about it in the future.

That was what you think was the open goal missed. Minister severance payments?

Are you aware that as a Nation we might have a small financial problem?

FFS Muppet, I was responding to a particular point raised by An Gaelgoir, and neither of us suggested it was the main issue, but we are allowed talk about more than the one issue. And as I said in my post, which you conveniently deleted with your selective quoting:

Gilmore did have a couple of snipes about the "lousy" government we've just had, I think he also said it was the worst govt in his lifetime. But I was impressed that he didnt overdo it, and he talked more about Labour than he did about FF.

[muppet]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

There were some comments alright about Gilmore missing open goals, but I dont agree with that. I don't think any of the long serving politicians can have a go at another one about proper (excessive) payments received. They're all in the same boat about having done well in the past (Ministers particularly so). What's much more important is what they'll do about it in the future.

That was what you think was the open goal missed. Minister severance payments?

Are you aware that as a Nation we might have a small financial problem?

FFS Muppet, I was responding to a particular point raised by An Gaelgoir, and neither of us suggested it was the main issue, but we are allowed talk about more than the one issue. And as I said in my post, which you conveniently deleted with your selective quoting:

Gilmore did have a couple of snipes about the "lousy" government we've just had, I think he also said it was the worst govt in his lifetime. But I was impressed that he didnt overdo it, and he talked more about Labour than he did about FF.

You are the one limiting discussion or opinion: "Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring".

You remind me of the cartoon character with the huge anvil falling on top of him. Everyone is pointing at it, you can hear it but he never looks up.

The world is talking about our financial catastrophe, we can all hear it, but a certain cabal will do anything to take attention off it.

[Bogball XV]

"He's allowed to pose as if a Fianna Fáil mammy found him under a cabbage recently and introduced him blinkinly in amazement to an evil world" (Joe Higgins on Micheál Martin)

Quote of the campaign so far! 

If Mammy found him like that she would have given him a bottle of Vodka, a revolver and put her Brian under the cabbage.

What about de brother??

He'd follow the vodka bottle.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?

That'll just be you. Only an idiot would say it wasn't a decent debate or that it was boring.

Sure you can argue about what they say, but they presented themselves very well.

Well after forcing myself through the last bit that sent me to sleep and reading through posts on it on politics.ie, the general consensus appears to be that it was a snorefest.

Again the general consensus appears to be that they didn't present themselves well.

But sure they must be all idiots too, the several hundred posters.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

The Fianna Fail line is that we need these debates because its a winter election and it is more difficult to go door to door, therefore the debates are the only way to engage the public.

Why is it only Fianna Fail who have a problem with going door to door, is it because they are the only party afraid to debate with the public one-to-one?

[AZOffaly]

The Fianna Fail line is that we need these debates because its a winter election and it is more difficult to go door to door, therefore the debates are the only way to engage the public.

Why is it only Fianna Fail who have a problem with going door to door, is it because they are the only party afraid to debate with the public one-to-one?

Where did you hear that? I hadn't heard that was the reason.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

The Fianna Fail line is that we need these debates because its a winter election and it is more difficult to go door to door, therefore the debates are the only way to engage the public.

Why is it only Fianna Fail who have a problem with going door to door, is it because they are the only party afraid to debate with the public one-to-one?

Where did you hear that? I hadn't heard that was the reason.

Are you talking about my first line? If so, Mary Hanafin said it a few days back. Saw it on RTE news if I recall.

[AZOffaly]

If so that's pretty stupid, but I'd expect no less from Hanafin. I doubt it's the party 'line' though. That's just way too easy for the other parties to hammer.

[Canalman]

Lo and behold I got my first canvasser calling to door after noshows for previous elections. A Sinn Féin canvasser who really laid it on about telling the IMF and EU to "stuff it". Pleasant enough bloke who came across well (I was surprised).