Election 2011 Offical Thread.

[muppet]

Ireland 'needs EU help with banks'
Updated: 15:00, Tuesday, 8 February 2011

Goodbody Stockbrokers has argued that the State cannot bear the losses from the banking crisis on its own.

A report from Goodbody Stockbrokers has argued that the State cannot bear the losses from the banking crisis on its own...

In other words default is a certainty unless the burden is redistributed. They'll listen to the Shinners yet! 

A default is certain unless there is restructuring which is just a structured default.

They all know it. FF won't say it for obvious reasons and FG and Labour are afraid to say it. SF can say it because they don't expect to be in Government. Being absolutely honest if SF did get into power they would change their tune rapido (unless there are not the politicians I think they are) as a default would impact their
(southern) demographic first.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

I don't think they'd go for the 'nuclear' option muppet (if they held that sway), i.e., unilateral renegotiation.

But they wouldn't be afraid to be much more forceful and forthright in putting it up to the ECB/IMF, with whom they'd play much harder ball.

[muppet]

I don't think they'd go for the 'nuclear' option muppet (if they held that sway), i.e., unilateral renegotiation.

But they wouldn't be afraid to be much more forceful and forthright in putting it up to the ECB/IMF, with whom they'd play much harder ball.

I don't doubt it but I think it is so late in the day that we have very little bargaining room.

The only position to take, as I see it, is that we are a ground floor apartment of a very tall building with the rest of the EU etc the occupying floors above us. We might be in the least desirable position but we can pull the whole lot down with us. Time to make large drilling noises.

All together now 'default, default.......'.

[mylestheslasher]

One thing sinn fein knows about more than any party is hard negotiation.

[trileacman]

One thing sinn fein knows about more than any party is hard negotiation.

Not true, they also know alot more about jailbreaks, C4, sniper rifles and punishment beatings/murders.

[Nally Stand]

Not true, they also know alot more about jailbreaks, C4, sniper rifles and punishment beatings/murders.

[mylestheslasher]

One thing sinn fein knows about more than any party is hard negotiation.

Not true, they also know alot more about jailbreaks, C4, sniper rifles and punishment beatings/murders.

Read what you wrote again, it doesn't make sense.

[trileacman]

One thing sinn fein knows about more than any party is hard negotiation.

Not true, they also know alot more about jailbreaks, C4, sniper rifles and punishment beatings/murders.

Read what you wrote again, it doesn't make sense.

Sorry misread your post, thought you said the only thing.

[johnpower]

 Things are getting bleaker by the day .How did the debate go .Not that it really matters in the long run

[Donnellys Hollow]

"He's allowed to pose as if a Fianna Fáil mammy found him under a cabbage recently and introduced him blinkinly in amazement to an evil world" (Joe Higgins on Micheál Martin)

Quote of the campaign so far! 

[muppet]

"He's allowed to pose as if a Fianna Fáil mammy found him under a cabbage recently and introduced him blinkinly in amazement to an evil world" (Joe Higgins on Micheál Martin)

Quote of the campaign so far! 

If Mammy found him like that she would have given him a bottle of Vodka, a revolver and put her Brian under the cabbage.

[Donnellys Hollow]

"He's allowed to pose as if a Fianna Fáil mammy found him under a cabbage recently and introduced him blinkinly in amazement to an evil world" (Joe Higgins on Micheál Martin)

Quote of the campaign so far! 

If Mammy found him like that she would have given him a bottle of Vodka, a revolver and put her Brian under the cabbage.

What about de brother??

[Hound]

Things are getting bleaker by the day .How did the debate go .Not that it really matters in the long run

It was a very good debate. The time really flew by and you'd hardly have known Browne was there because he had to make so few interventions.

Martin stuttered a few times in his opening statement, but performed really well after that. He put Gilmore on the back foot for much of the first half of the debate. But when Gilmore got going he performed very well too.

Martin edged it overall, but for me it was more proof that both men are head and shoulders above their predecessors. 

[An Gaeilgoir]

Things are getting bleaker by the day .How did the debate go .Not that it really matters in the long run

It was a very good debate. The time really flew by and you'd hardly have known Browne was there because he had to make so few interventions.

Martin stuttered a few times in his opening statement, but performed really well after that. He put Gilmore on the back foot for much of the first half of the debate. But when Gilmore got going he performed very well too.

Martin edged it overall, but for me it was more proof that both men are head and shoulders above their predecessors.

Gilmore had a couple of opportunities to get one in on Martin, but for some reason he let it go, i.e Martin's 90K pay off etc. Martin did well and Gilmore lost this one imo. At the end of the day the only ones who win are the television advertising managers.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Anyone else fall asleep during the debate?