Margaret Thatcher....

[glens abu]

What was Adams smoking when he said her "Irish policy failed miserably" ?

Sure you would love to know that so that Martin Óg and the boys could buy some

Ah jesus lads; tis getting serious here. Keep er going glens abu. Ye are making a complete ejet of yourself.

Good lad tickle,don't tell me you know saff and Matin Óg as well.all part of the Marty appreciation society

[93-DY-SAM]

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk - Spotify playlist and all for the occasion.

Not without its controversies though.  Apparently Cher fans on Twitter think she has popped her clogs because of their hash tag #nowthatchersdead

[seafoid]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/04/margaret-thatcher-state-funeral-protests

"What she did succeed in doing was to restore class privilege, boosting profitability while slashing employees' share of national income from 65% to 53% through her assault on unions. Britain faced a structural crisis in the 1970s, but there were multiple routes out of it. Thatcher imposed a neoliberal model now seen to have failed across the world."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-transform-britain-economy

"On the other hand, growth has been depressed because weak trade unions can no longer ensure wage increases keep pace with inflation. The government's welfare bill has been swollen by tax credits and housing benefit caused by the labour market reforms and council house sales of the 1980s. Britain's record on innovation and investment have been extremely poor, while the hollowing out of manufacturing left the economy over-dependent on the de-regulated City. Oil helped Thatcher paper over the cracks, but Britain's age-old problem – finding a way to pay its way in the world – remains. The last time the UK ran a trade surplus was the year of the Falklands war."


It is no wonder the Loyalists feel betrayed BTW. Britain is not what it used to be. There isn't much to be  loyal to really. 

[glens abu]

It lies in the hearts of heroes dead,
It screams in tyrants' eyes,
It has reached the peak of mountains high,
It comes searing 'cross the skies.
It lights the dark of this prison cell,
It thunders forth its might,
It is 'the undauntable thought', my friend,
That thought that says 'I'm right!'

[seafoid]

A beautiful piece of music about someone from the other side.
The mother of the Price sisters.
But there won't be many in Ireland mourning Thatcher.   


Faoí scaíl dhubh an bháis
Briseann an croí faoí dheireadh
Ar mháthair óg ón dTuaisceart.
Na garlaigh dís, iníonacha óga
Anois faoí cheo i bpríosún Lincoln.
A Mharian, A Dholorus, Slán go deo
Ní chloinnfidh sibh, ná ní fheicfidh sibh
Torann clochach na cré bui
Ag titeam ar chónra bhúr máthar.
A shaoirse, nach íobairteach
Scaradh clainne is deora faóí.
A Mharian, A Dholorus, Slán go deo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUjp5-TqaXc

[LCohen]

No fan of thatcher or her works but some of the nonsense on here is dispicable and grossly ill-informed particularly on the Falklands. By all means hall her name and reputation over he coals for the Belgrano but anybody who thinks she had a choice not to go to war or that the argentinian conduct was anything less than illegal and disgusting suffers from some form of idiocy

[Tony Baloney]

No fan of thatcher or her works but some of the nonsense on here is dispicable and grossly ill-informed particularly on the Falklands. By all means hall her name and reputation over he coals for the Belgrano but anybody who thinks she had a choice not to go to war or that the argentinian conduct was anything less than illegal and disgusting suffers from some form of idiocy

Seafoid will set you straight with some carefully chosen Guardian excerpts.

[gallsman]

I (and many others on this board) found it more than a little distasteful when Americans turned out en masse to celebrate the death of bin Laden at the gates of the White House. No doubt to Stew that makes me an al-Qaeda sympathiser or something. I'll shed no tears for the hoor and have no sympathy, but reveling in Thatcher's ultimate demise the way some are on here makes my stomach turn.

[Íseal agus crua isteach a]

The death of Margaret Thatcher has sent a cacophony of sound, a kaleidoscope of colour and a feel good factor that could have us confuse this Monday morning for a Friday evening at the beginning of a bank holiday weekend among the working classes worldwide.

The mainstream media outlets will eulogise a tyrant in both British and (semi-British) Irish media outlets that will have little reflection on how the masses viewed the greatest narcissist in World politics in the last half century. But it will not reflect the general feeling of the masses who greeted the news of her demise with a huge,

'Thank f@#k for that'.

In South America she is hated for her resolute support for the detested Chilean dictator, General Pinochet, her support for right-wing Contras in Nicaragua and of course the abdominal sinking of the Argentine Navy light cruiser, the General Belgrano. The Belgrano was sailing away from the war zone of the Malvina's in 1982 when she was sunk on the orders of Thatcher with the loss of 323 souls. The action was a war crime.

In other notable International affairs she labelled Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and supported covertly the Apartheid rule in South Africa. Given her support for Pinochet and the right wing Contra's and her recourse to label the ANC terrorists, it's a relief to note Ireland's best shared the same stable with the ANC, PLO etc. Thatcher failed to hide her racist tendencies.

Ireland

In Ireland there will be those who uncompromisingly support the actions of Thatcher throughout the 32 counties. They are some of the few individuals who done exceedingly well from her neo-liberal policies that destroyed the lives of millions from the working classes, destroyed the welfare state and ensured greed, 'loads a money' and a mentality of 'me first' took over from the need for collective wellbeing.

But when the book on Thatcher is authored by the enlightened, it will make difficult reading for those who fought Thatcher only to surrender and embrace her political philosophy in the pursuit of that age-old fiendish crime, preoccupation with self.

In Ireland, few in politics are immune. The demolishing of the welfare system has been resumed by her greatest advocate, David Cameron and delivered with alarmingly little fuss by his contemporaries in the N.I Executive.

The closing of Residential Care Homes, Venerable Adult Day Care facilities, Specialist Care facilities, longer waiting lists for healthcare, Social housing, bedroom taxes, the removal of thousands from disability living allowance schemes, public services run into the ground etc. can be traced directly to Thatcher's policy of attacking the working classes and the poor. It is Thatcher's economic policies via her 'chomp' Cameron that the present Stormont Executive is administering.

Some of the great moral and intellectual capacity that once inspired the more heroic in the political mainstream has evaporated like a puddle in the Sahara. Ireland no longer enjoys visionaries like Connolly or Larkin.

While we have watched the appallingly ignorant diatribe of bombast and crocodile tears flood from the eyes and mouths of representatives of the five party Executive, only a complete failure to grasp the most basic in economics could prompt this strange inversion of logic while attempting to support the parties that administer these cuts. To be fair the shallowness is not evenly distributed and some members are beginning to question policy. But on the day of Thatcher's ultimate demise, it is important to show where the 'Left' resides.

The one question we all must ask ourselves, and we may wish to ignore the answer, Did Maggie Thatcher defeat Republicans & Socialists in Ireland?

[Orior]

I (and many others on this board) found it more than a little distasteful when Americans turned out en masse to celebrate the death of bin Laden at the gates of the White House. No doubt to Stew that makes me an al-Qaeda sympathiser or something. I'll shed no tears for the hoor and have no sympathy, but reveling in Thatcher's ultimate demise the way some are on here makes my stomach turn.

Dont confuse the Internet Warrier celebration with actual dancing on the street (or grave).

[Puckoon]

Ohh ah, up the ra

Is this the kind of place the gaaboard is these days? Or whitty 3 liners about narrowly missed at Brighton?

Death is the greatest of levellers - and she has met hers.

[Tony Baloney]

Ohh ah, up the ra

Is this the kind of place the gaaboard is these days? Or whitty 3 liners about narrowly missed at Brighton?

Death is the greatest of levellers - and she has met hers.

Aye it's a bit of a hollow victory alright.

[glens abu]

Ohh ah, up the ra

Is this the kind of place the gaaboard is these days? Or whitty 3 liners about narrowly missed at Brighton?

Death is the greatest of levellers - and she has met hers.

Ah ffs get over yourself, people are just happy that she has gone and will post 1,2or3liners just for the craic.

[dillinger]

[/quote]I think the great unwashed of The Socialist Workers Party are involved in a lot of these "parties".
[/quote]

The lazy bastards don't have to get up for work in the morning.

[blanketattack]

The death of Margaret Thatcher has sent a cacophony of sound, a kaleidoscope of colour and a feel good factor that could have us confuse this Monday morning for a Friday evening at the beginning of a bank holiday weekend among the working classes worldwide.

The mainstream media outlets will eulogise a tyrant in both British and (semi-British) Irish media outlets that will have little reflection on how the masses viewed the greatest narcissist in World politics in the last half century. But it will not reflect the general feeling of the masses who greeted the news of her demise with a huge,

'Thank f@#k for that'.

In South America she is hated for her resolute support for the detested Chilean dictator, General Pinochet, her support for right-wing Contras in Nicaragua and of course the abdominal sinking of the Argentine Navy light cruiser, the General Belgrano. The Belgrano was sailing away from the war zone of the Malvina's in 1982 when she was sunk on the orders of Thatcher with the loss of 323 souls. The action was a war crime.

In other notable International affairs she labelled Nelson Mandela a Terrorist and supported covertly the Apartheid rule in South Africa. Given her support for Pinochet and the right wing Contra's and her recourse to label the ANC terrorists, it's a relief to note Ireland's best shared the same stable with the ANC, PLO etc. Thatcher failed to hide her racist tendencies.

Ireland

In Ireland there will be those who uncompromisingly support the actions of Thatcher throughout the 32 counties. They are some of the few individuals who done exceedingly well from her neo-liberal policies that destroyed the lives of millions from the working classes, destroyed the welfare state and ensured greed, 'loads a money' and a mentality of 'me first' took over from the need for collective wellbeing.

But when the book on Thatcher is authored by the enlightened, it will make difficult reading for those who fought Thatcher only to surrender and embrace her political philosophy in the pursuit of that age-old fiendish crime, preoccupation with self.

In Ireland, few in politics are immune. The demolishing of the welfare system has been resumed by her greatest advocate, David Cameron and delivered with alarmingly little fuss by his contemporaries in the N.I Executive.

The closing of Residential Care Homes, Venerable Adult Day Care facilities, Specialist Care facilities, longer waiting lists for healthcare, Social housing, bedroom taxes, the removal of thousands from disability living allowance schemes, public services run into the ground etc. can be traced directly to Thatcher's policy of attacking the working classes and the poor. It is Thatcher's economic policies via her 'chomp' Cameron that the present Stormont Executive is administering.

Some of the great moral and intellectual capacity that once inspired the more heroic in the political mainstream has evaporated like a puddle in the Sahara. Ireland no longer enjoys visionaries like Connolly or Larkin.

While we have watched the appallingly ignorant diatribe of bombast and crocodile tears flood from the eyes and mouths of representatives of the five party Executive, only a complete failure to grasp the most basic in economics could prompt this strange inversion of logic while attempting to support the parties that administer these cuts. To be fair the shallowness is not evenly distributed and some members are beginning to question policy. But on the day of Thatcher's ultimate demise, it is important to show where the 'Left' resides.

The one question we all must ask ourselves, and we may wish to ignore the answer, Did Maggie Thatcher defeat Republicans & Socialists in Ireland?

Her most evil bedfellow was surely Pol Pol and the Khmer Rouge. Sending the SAS to Cambodia to train the Khmer Rouge in technical areas such as planting landmines had devasting results for decades.