Good Priests, what have they done for you.

[Ulick]

Donagh Ulick is trying some pathetic attempt at being amusing. Normally very politically tuned in (agree with him or not) he is trying to tell us he hasn't heard anything about the story. I don't see anything amusing about this story myself. Funny how you lose all ready and interest when a story comes along that puts member(s) of the church in a bad light isn't it, I wonder why that is?

I dunno myles why don't you tell us? I don't pay much notice of the mainstream church but I do seem to remember Brady being feted far and wide when he was appointed, now he's in the bad books. Excuse me if I missed the news and can't summon up enough faux outrage to meet everyone's approval but this has about as much interest to me as the previous hundred similar stories we've heard over the past decade. Shocking, maybe, disappointing, sure, surprising, not at all.

[mylestheslasher]

Donagh Ulick is trying some pathetic attempt at being amusing. Normally very politically tuned in (agree with him or not) he is trying to tell us he hasn't heard anything about the story. I don't see anything amusing about this story myself. Funny how you lose all ready and interest when a story comes along that puts member(s) of the church in a bad light isn't it, I wonder why that is?

I dunno myles why don't you tell us? I don't pay much notice of the mainstream church but I do seem to remember Brady being feted far and wide when he was appointed, now he's in the bad books. Excuse me if I missed the news and can't summon up enough faux outrage to meet everyone's approval but this has about as much interest to me as the previous hundred similar stories we've heard over the past decade. Shocking, maybe, disappointing, sure, surprising, not at all.

Maybe Brady was feted before the truth was known, is that so hard to understand. People didn't know he had protected a paedophille did they? And don't give me this shite about not knowing about this case, there isn't anyone in the country that hasn't read something about it in the past week.

[Orior]

There was a bloke on the radio the other morning who made a very valid point. Back in the 70's when in the presence of the senior hierarchy a young priest was meant to be seen and not heard.

But now people are shouting for his head. I dont understand it at all.

If I knew that two men slept together should I report it to the police? Obviously not. But if they slept together in 1963? It was illegal then. So should I still report it to the police?

Now before you go flying off the handle, yes I know, that child molesting is wrong, and was always wrong. But back then Brady was not the law. His superiors were the law. Brady is a good man. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[mylestheslasher]

There was a bloke on the radio the other morning who made a very valid point. Back in the 70's when in the presence of the senior hierarchy a young priest was meant to be seen and not heard.

But now people are shouting for his head. I dont understand it at all.

If I knew that two men slept together should I report it to the police? Obviously not. But if they slept together in 1963? It was illegal then. So should I still report it to the police?

Now before you go flying off the handle, yes I know, that child molesting is wrong, and was always wrong. But back then Brady was not the law. His superiors were the law. Brady is a good man. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.

You ask people not to fly of handle yet you post pure dung. Child rape was wrong 2000 years ago never mind 30 years ago. Brady knew this notorious child rapist was still at large and nothing done. He watch him end up in court twice and it didn't dawn on him to say anything? Maybe you are right, keep quiet and climb the ladder to be a cardinal. If thats the case you are only wrong about one thing, Brady is not a good man. He is a self interested selfish man who cared more about himself and his corrupt church than he did about children.

[pintsofguinness]

There was a bloke on the radio the other morning who made a very valid point. Back in the 70's when in the presence of the senior hierarchy a young priest was meant to be seen and not heard.

But now people are shouting for his head. I dont understand it at all.

If I knew that two men slept together should I report it to the police? Obviously not. But if they slept together in 1963? It was illegal then. So should I still report it to the police?

Now before you go flying off the handle, yes I know, that child molesting is wrong, and was always wrong. But back then Brady was not the law. His superiors were the law. Brady is a good man. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Well I dont buy that orior but even if we did give him the benefit of the doubt about his not reporting it in 1975 why has it taken him to now (considering that smyth was prosecuted in the north and south) to come out and say what he done - and he's only done that because there was a civil case.

[Orior]

What you guys are suggesting is that every one of the Catholic management team resign.

And if that happens, do they just bring in PriceWaterhouseCoopers to run the church in Ireland? Of bring in the Church of Ireland top brass? Of let Richatrd Branson run it?

Either way, if you guys get your way, i would imagine it is the end of the catholic church. And that aint gonna happen.

[pintsofguinness]

What you guys are suggesting is that every one of the Catholic management team resign.

And if that happens, do they just bring in PriceWaterhouseCoopers to run the church in Ireland? Of bring in the Church of Ireland top brass? Of let Richatrd Branson run it?

Either way, if you guys get your way, i would imagine it is the end of the catholic church. And that aint gonna happen.

And what do you think will happen the catholic church with paedo protectors at the top?

[mylestheslasher]

What you guys are suggesting is that every one of the Catholic management team resign.

And if that happens, do they just bring in PriceWaterhouseCoopers to run the church in Ireland? Of bring in the Church of Ireland top brass? Of let Richatrd Branson run it?

Either way, if you guys get your way, i would imagine it is the end of the catholic church. And that aint gonna happen.

I'm not saying that, not unless it is shown that they all protected Paedophilles? If they were all involved in protecting Paedophilles do you think the lay people will continue to support their leadership, with the exception that is of those that can see no wrong in any of this.

[stephenite]

There was a bloke on the radio the other morning who made a very valid point. Back in the 70's when in the presence of the senior hierarchy a young priest was meant to be seen and not heard.

But now people are shouting for his head. I dont understand it at all.

If I knew that two men slept together should I report it to the police? Obviously not. But if they slept together in 1963? It was illegal then. So should I still report it to the police?

Now before you go flying off the handle, yes I know, that child molesting is wrong, and was always wrong. But back then Brady was not the law. His superiors were the law. Brady is a good man. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.

That a grown man, be him priest or lay was aware of child molestations and present for the signing of those documents is inexcusable and unforgiveable.

Someone (Hardy, maybe) came with a phrase a few months or years back - something about disappearing into the study with a bottle of Brandy and a revolver. I can't help thinking of it now, how can these guys sleep at night, look at themselves in the mirror. Much less, get up on front of  a packed church and hold their hands up and go ooops, sorry and only then when their forced to.

[Main Street]

A 37 year old highly educated man is not a young buck. And Brendan Smyth was and continued to be pure evil.
I have no clue about Cardinal Brady or what he has done to deserve such a lofty post. For the sake of the members of the church i'd hope it was not his blind obedience and willingness to participate in a cover up of this Brendan Smyth proportions  over the decades, that was one of the shining lights on his CV.

As for putting a lid on it now and moving on as a part of the strategy, does not speak much for his leadership qualities in such a crisis. Wherever did some people get the idea that this sex abuse in Ireland issue is a wrap?

[Orior]

I would say that all clergy men at parish priest level and above knew what was going on. They would have got together often enough to speak about those unspeakable things.

My parents say that she will never stop going to chapel. They pray to God, not to the priest.

[Tony Baloney]

I would say that all clergy men at parish priest level and above knew what was going on. They would have got together often enough to speak about those unspeakable things.

My parents say that she will never stop going to chapel. They pray to God, not to the priest.

Which can be done from the comfort of their own home should they choose.

[Orior]

I would say that all clergy men at parish priest level and above knew what was going on. They would have got together often enough to speak about those unspeakable things.

My parents say that she will never stop going to chapel. They pray to God, not to the priest.

Which can be done from the comfort of their own home should they choose.

But they wont do that. And they will continue to throw in the envelopes too. Its called faith.

[Tony Baloney]

I would say that all clergy men at parish priest level and above knew what was going on. They would have got together often enough to speak about those unspeakable things.

My parents say that she will never stop going to chapel. They pray to God, not to the priest.

Which can be done from the comfort of their own home should they choose.

But they wont do that. And they will continue to throw in the envelopes too. Its called faith.

The hush money has to come from somewhere.

[Main Street]

It was the congregation en masse and finally 50 of the priests forced the resignation of Cardinal Law in Boston.
Law's problem fundamentally was blind obedience to the Vatican's procedures in the sex abuse cases.

The Irish congregation took a long time to wake up, roused up a wee fuss and were far too keen to get back to the way things were.