Tyrone don't play fair

Started by Mike Sheehy, February 20, 2010, 05:57:09 AM

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saffron sam2

Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.
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BennyHarp

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Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.

You may be correct - but i think it is pure nonsense to suggest (like some people are inferring on this thread) that this sort of cynical play started in 2003 when Mickey Harte took over the Tyrone job!

All counties have their fair share of people who bend the rules - Tyrone have just been in the public eye a bit more in recent years and been successful after years in the doldrums. So people immediately point the figure at cynicism for the reason for that success rather than admit that we actually have been blessed with some damn good footballers.
That was never a square ball!!

Zapatista

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.

Ye don't give him much credit do you?

saffron sam2

Quote from: BennyHarp on February 23, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.

You may be correct - but i think it is pure nonsense to suggest (like some people are inferring on this thread) that this sort of cynical play started in 2003 when Mickey Harte took over the Tyrone job!

All counties have their fair share of people who bend the rules - Tyrone have just been in the public eye a bit more in recent years and been successful after years in the doldrums. So people immediately point the figure at cynicism for the reason for that success rather than admit that we actually have been blessed with some damn good footballers.

In the main your post is correct, but IMHO Mickey Harte's Tyrone took cynicism to a new level, notwithstanding the fact that they have some of the finest footballers to have played the game in this or any other generation.
the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet

Zapatista

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
In the main your post is correct, but IMHO Mickey Harte's Tyrone took cynicism to a new level, notwithstanding the fact that they have some of the finest footballers to have played the game in this or any other generation.

I think this is the genius of Harte. He knew he had some of the finest footballers to have played the game and thought, how do I make their game better? Others would have been happy with the finest footballers ever to play the game but not Mickey Hart, he wanted more, and by gurra he got it.

saffron sam2

Quote from: Zapatista on February 23, 2010, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.

Ye don't give him much credit do you?

Not sure what you mean.

Both incidents are ones which you wouldn't normally have associated with earlier Mayo teams (naivety maybe) and both are identical to multiple incidents I have seen in games involving Tyrone. It is clear from these incidents that O'Mahony has added an extra edge to Mayo's game. It is also fair to assume that when looking to improve, you look at the best and that's what I assume O'Mahony is doing.
the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet

saffron sam2

Quote from: Zapatista on February 23, 2010, 01:45:37 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
In the main your post is correct, but IMHO Mickey Harte's Tyrone took cynicism to a new level, notwithstanding the fact that they have some of the finest footballers to have played the game in this or any other generation.

I think this is the genius of Harte. He knew he had some of the finest footballers to have played the game and thought, how do I make their game better? Others would have been happy with the finest footballers ever to play the game but not Mickey Hart, he wanted more, and by gurra he got it.

I would have said "How do I make them win things?" rather than "How do I make their game better?"
the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet

Zapatista

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 01:50:37 PM

I would have said "How do I make them win things?" rather than "How do I make their game better?"

Ah you've been asking the wrong questions ;)

saffron sam2

Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2010, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 23, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 23, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Whilst this thread was obviously started as a wind-up, I would like to make the following serious point.

As the Tyrone - Mayo league game neared its conclusion and the Tyrone player (can't remember who) was cynically pulled down around mid-field, closely followed by the Joe McMahon incident, I couldn't help but think that the blue-shirted O'Mahony had learned from Mickey Harte.

You may be correct - but i think it is pure nonsense to suggest (like some people are inferring on this thread) that this sort of cynical play started in 2003 when Mickey Harte took over the Tyrone job!

All counties have their fair share of people who bend the rules - Tyrone have just been in the public eye a bit more in recent years and been successful after years in the doldrums. So people immediately point the figure at cynicism for the reason for that success rather than admit that we actually have been blessed with some damn good footballers.

In the main your post is correct, but IMHO Mickey Harte's Tyrone took cynicism to a new level, notwithstanding the fact that they have some of the finest footballers to have played the game in this or any other generation.
Has Pádraic Joyce moved down the ladder?

Joyce has an individual approach. Tyrone's is an ethos.
the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet

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