BBC presenter confesses to mercy killing

Started by Zapatista, February 17, 2010, 08:13:04 AM

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Capt Pat

Quote from: Massey-135 on February 17, 2010, 10:35:05 AM
It's murder in the eyes of the law, but I wouldn't want him thrown in jail. I've sympathy for people in that situation

I wouldn't throw him in jail either, I would have  a big burly policeman throw a pillow over his head and see how he liked it. That would sort all this bull shit out in no time at all.

Capt Pat

Quote from: Asal Mor on February 17, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
If someone is suffering badly and wants to die it's a kind and selfless act to help them. You are putting your own future at risk in order to help someone you love. The people who call it murder - what would you do if someone you loved was in horrific pain and wanted to die?

I'm not talking about the BBC presenter case here; just making a general point.

Nobody wants to die but you can not go around having people throw pillows over peoples heads and say ah they were going to die anyway.
There has to be a line drawn in relation to these matters and when your bit on the side is dying that does not entitle you to end their life on request. nobody knows if he is making this up about actually doing it or if he did do it whether the man asked him to do it or not.

Asal Mor

Quote from: Capt Pat on February 17, 2010, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on February 17, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
If someone is suffering badly and wants to die it's a kind and selfless act to help them. You are putting your own future at risk in order to help someone you love. The people who call it murder - what would you do if someone you loved was in horrific pain and wanted to die?

I'm not talking about the BBC presenter case here; just making a general point.

Nobody wants to die but you can not go around having people throw pillows over peoples heads and say ah they were going to die anyway.
There has to be a line drawn in relation to these matters and when your bit on the side is dying that does not entitle you to end their life on request. nobody knows if he is making this up about actually doing it or if he did do it whether the man asked him to do it or not.

That's why I said I wasn't referring to this particular case but making a general point about euthanasia, which I firmly believe should be legalised.

tyrone girl

As said before we can all talk about the rights and wrongs of this but none of us really know how we would react in a situation like that. Id like to think if someone i loved was in terrible pain and begging me to end their life to spare them any more pain that i would do it. In a situation like that id find it harder to live with not killing then if that makes any kind of sense.

The Iceman

Its hard for a lot of people to make calls on issues like these - especially where emotions are involved.
Of course if a loved one was suffering you would want to end that suffering - but it doesn't take away from the fact that you just killed a person.
Call it mercy killing or whatever you want  - its still killing and that's wrong.
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Celt_Man

Quote from: tyrone girl on February 17, 2010, 05:25:47 PM
As said before we can all talk about the rights and wrongs of this but none of us really know how we would react in a situation like that. Id like to think if someone i loved was in terrible pain and begging me to end their life to spare them any more pain that i would do it. In a situation like that id find it harder to live with not killing then if that makes any kind of sense.

Kinda sums up how I feel about it too
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Puckoon

Quote from: The Iceman on February 17, 2010, 05:30:41 PM
Its hard for a lot of people to make calls on issues like these - especially where emotions are involved.
Of course if a loved one was suffering you would want to end that suffering - but it doesn't take away from the fact that you just killed a person.
Call it mercy killing or whatever you want  - its still killing and that's wrong.

I believe it is killing

I dont believe it is wrong - and I think that person will be welcomed into heaven.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
As to the central point in this thread - I doubt that any of us would know what we would really do in that situation unless you were in it.
I'm certain I wouldn't' smoother someone with a pillow!
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no mo do yakamo

What  sort of a society allows you to put an animal out of its misery but not a human?
It wasn't even kennedy in the car.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: no mo do yakamo on February 17, 2010, 06:05:04 PM
What  sort of a society allows you to put an animal out of its misery but not a human?
one where humans can't be trusted to act with good intentions when it comes to killing other humans!
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

theskull1

Not all could be trusted ..you're right there....but there are plenty could be

Thats why proper systems would be needed to ensure proper controls
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ardmhachaabu

Quote from: Puckoon on February 17, 2010, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 17, 2010, 05:30:41 PM
Its hard for a lot of people to make calls on issues like these - especially where emotions are involved.
Of course if a loved one was suffering you would want to end that suffering - but it doesn't take away from the fact that you just killed a person.
Call it mercy killing or whatever you want  - its still killing and that's wrong.

I believe it is killing

I dont believe it is wrong - and I think that person will be welcomed into heaven.
puck, I don't get this.  I honestly don't understand how you can say it's killing but that it is not wrong
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Puckoon

Well it is ending someone elses life therefore its killing. Maybe theres a better word, but I dont know it yet.

Theres lots of different types of killing. Killing in self defence, unlawful killing and then killing with the intent of murder IMP.

Most instances of killing need to be judged on their individualities.

If you are going to do something like this - you need to be prepared to stand behind your decision when you meet your maker (if such an event occurs). I think this man would have adequate cause and it would appear as though he did this with the best of intentions. Which is all you can ask of anyone.

ardmhachaabu

The way I see it, all killing is wrong and can never be justified.  Call it simplistic if you want, fine by me  :)

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ludermor

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on February 17, 2010, 07:16:39 PM
The way I see it, all killing is wrong and can never be justified.  Call it simplistic if you want, fine by me  :)

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