SDLP and Sinn Fein. Surely an electoral pact would make sense

Started by T Fearon, February 12, 2010, 12:44:05 PM

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stew

Quote from: gallsman on February 12, 2010, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 12, 2010, 02:15:02 PM
I too would like to move away from sectarian politics, but we live in an artificial statelet founded on an immoral and undemocratic sectarian headcount, therefore the only way to get rid of  sectarian politics is to make sure that the advocates of the maintenance of this state have as little political influence as possible and I would suggest that this can only be achieved via an electoral pact.

The alternative is to have nationalist constituencies misrepresented by the likes of Arlene Foster, for you can be sure, the so called unionist family can set aside its differences and animosities and rally round to keep taigs out.

In any case don't Sinn Fein (eg Billy Leonard) and the  SDLP have protestant membership? So calling for an electoral pact between them is not sectarian

Wow, Billy Leonard is a Prod. I know a Prod SDLP man. How many prods do you reckon vote for either of them?

You are a grumpy bastid the day gallsman, you need to relax before you hurt yourself.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Maguire01

Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

charlieTully

Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.

Maguire01

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

charlieTully

Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.

Maguire01

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

charlieTully

Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

were you actually serious with your free run comment, i took it to be in obvious jest? why would sf give a helping hand to their pollitical opponents, would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?

Minder

You do realise Charlie the SDLP, regardless of what you think of them, represent a fair section of people. Should they have no political representation?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

ardmhachaabu

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

were you actually serious with your free run comment, i took it to be in obvious jest? why would sf give a helping hand to their pollitical opponents, would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?
There will always be a place for the SDLP as there is a sizeable amount of the population who will never ever vote for murderers or those who colluded with them
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something

ziggysego

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

were you actually serious with your free run comment, i took it to be in obvious jest? why would sf give a helping hand to their pollitical opponents, would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?

There's more than one shade of green Charlie, as there is of orange. There'll always be a place for SDLP, as there will be for Sinn Fein, UUP, DUP, Alliance and PUP.
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charlieTully

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on February 12, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

were you actually serious with your free run comment, i took it to be in obvious jest? why would sf give a helping hand to their pollitical opponents, would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?
There will always be a place for the SDLP as there is a sizeable amount of the population who will never ever vote for murderers or those who colluded with them

thats an amount that is getting less and less with each election. the people have spoken. move on gentlemen, the place for you now is whinging on the sidelines. you have had your chance, you failed. accept it. as for the murderers quip, wise up ffs. Are Irishmen not entitled to take up arms when being burnt out of our houses and interned in our thousands. thats the exact sort of comment that just sums of the sdlp mentality. you are a disgrace to your county ardmhachaabu.

trileacman

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 08:01:46 PM

thats an amount that is getting less and less with each election. the people have spoken. move on gentlemen, the place for you now is whinging on the sidelines. you have had your chance, you failed. accept it. as for the murderers quip, wise up ffs. Are Irishmen not entitled to take up arms and bomb chip shops/town squares/Omagh when being burnt out of our houses and interned in our thousands. thats the exact sort of comment that just sums of the sdlp mentality. you are a disgrace to your county ardmhachaabu.
Fixed that for you.
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trileacman

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?
Yes an unopposed nationalist party is what we need, that would work perfect. Bolshevik.
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Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

gallsman

Tony, you've fairly changed your tune haven't you? You used to be stoop this and stoop that. You're in danger of not being seen as the true republican you know yourself to be!

Stew, I'm just grumpy full stop.

ardmhachaabu

Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 08:01:46 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on February 12, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 12, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 12, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Who gives a fcuk about returning people to Westminster? It''s nothing but a soft retirement plan for career politicians like Mark Durkan and Eddie McGrady. At least let them fight for their pension plans.
The who do SF run in the Westminster elections at all? Why do they spend significant resource on such elections?
If it's just for 'career politicians', why not give the SDLP a free run?

a free run to do what?? they had a free run for years and were content with the status quo.
How do you work that one out?

they are yes men, do what they are bid and take their handout like good wee boys.
I see you're well equipped for a mature debate.

were you actually serious with your free run comment, i took it to be in obvious jest? why would sf give a helping hand to their pollitical opponents, would it not be best for nationalism for the sdlp to disband completly and give sf a free run, is there really a need for the sdlp anymore?
There will always be a place for the SDLP as there is a sizeable amount of the population who will never ever vote for murderers or those who colluded with them

thats an amount that is getting less and less with each election. the people have spoken. move on gentlemen, the place for you now is whinging on the sidelines. you have had your chance, you failed. accept it. as for the murderers quip, wise up ffs. Are Irishmen not entitled to take up arms when being burnt out of our houses and interned in our thousands. thats the exact sort of comment that just sums of the sdlp mentality. you are a disgrace to your county ardmhachaabu.
Irishmen are entitled to defend themselves and their families, but they are not entitled to attack people by firebombing their homes in the middle of the night or by placing bombs under cars in the middle of the night

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something