DUP Ministers Who go to Cardinal Dalys Mass

[boojangles]

and they are supposed to represent all their constituents.

At least they went FFS, Tony.  If MPs are supposed to represent all their constituents, how come I don't have any representation at Westminster.  I don't see you gurning about those MPs not turning up.

Best not rise to the bait. Most fair minded people realise the importance of this gesture instead of looking for a way to be offended by it. Times have and will please God continue to change.

[thebigfella]

Did you go Tony?

[ziggysego]

Did you go Tony?

Don't be silly, Tony doesn't represent anyone

[T Fearon]

Why would I go?

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

In what other state in the world would Executive Ministers go to a house beside a church where a funeral of a leading Churchman was taking place, but fail to attend the service because they believe nonsensically that at best, the Church in question is non christian and at worst, that the deceased's ultimate church superior is the anti christ? How can people who believe this nonsense be trusted to govern impartially?

FFS Wise up, will you?

[thebigfella]

Why would I go?

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

In what other state in the world would Executive Ministers go to a house beside a church where a funeral of a leading Churchman was taking place, but fail to attend the service because they believe nonsensically that at best, the Church in question is non christian and at worst, that the deceased's ultimate church superior is the anti christ? How can people who believe this nonsense be trusted to govern impartially?

FFS Wise up, will you?

Dunno you claim to be every f**king thing else, it's a wonder you didn't win some tickets to it.

[ziggysego]

Why would I go?

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

In what other state in the world would Executive Ministers go to a house beside a church where a funeral of a leading Churchman was taking place, but fail to attend the service because they believe nonsensically that at best, the Church in question is non christian and at worst, that the deceased's ultimate church superior is the anti christ? How can people who believe this nonsense be trusted to govern impartially?

FFS Wise up, will you?

Dunno you claim to be every f**king thing else, it's a wonder you didn't win some tickets to it.

[lynchbhoy]

Why would I go?

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

In what other state in the world would Executive Ministers go to a house beside a church where a funeral of a leading Churchman was taking place, but fail to attend the service because they believe nonsensically that at best, the Church in question is non christian and at worst, that the deceased's ultimate church superior is the anti christ? How can people who believe this nonsense be trusted to govern impartially?

FFS Wise up, will you?

sadly I think that their motivation for not attending the mass is the aforementioned tactic of not losing votes (as much as garnering them)
if the COE archbishop turned up and didnt go into the mass, if an english/american/euro politician turned up and refused to go into the mass - there would be a whole lot more outcry in the press.
However as you said yourself - what more did you expect ...
the narowmindedness has not fully left yet, but I suppse they didnt jeer his death and did turn up to half the events  -which is a step in the right direction - no matter how petty or ridiculous !

[boojangles]

Why would I go?

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

In what other state in the world would Executive Ministers go to a house beside a church where a funeral of a leading Churchman was taking place, but fail to attend the service because they believe nonsensically that at best, the Church in question is non christian and at worst, that the deceased's ultimate church superior is the anti christ? How can people who believe this nonsense be trusted to govern impartially?

FFS Wise up, will you?

Its Northern Ireland we'r talking about here Tony. No offence to anybody but its one of the most fucked up places around.Common sense doesn't come into it. As somebody mentioned already look how times have changed from when Cardinal O Fiach died. Its slowly changing so get over it.

[dec]

They probably got the idea from the Irish cabinet ministers and politicians who stayed outside the Church of Ireland cathedral during Douglas Hyde's funeral.

[Maguire01]

This was a half arsed gesture, that seems to have been bought by a lot of gullible people including contributors to this Board, a sort of damage limitation exercise.

Rather than being "bought", i'd imagine that most people just don't care whether or not the DUP turned up or stayed for a mass. We don't all look for reasons to get offended.

I'm not quite sure why any politicians should be obliged to go to such a funeral anyway. I heard Sylvia Hermon on the radio talking about why she went - her and her husband's personal friendship with the Cardinal - but I don't see why any political party should have to send someone.

[gallsman]

They probably got the idea from the Irish cabinet ministers and politicians who stayed outside the Church of Ireland cathedral during Douglas Hyde's funeral.

Oh wow, surely not! Tony'll be along any second to give a perfectly logical and in now way hypocritical explanation for this any moment now!

[Maguire01]

They probably got the idea from the Irish cabinet ministers and politicians who stayed outside the Church of Ireland cathedral during Douglas Hyde's funeral.

Oh wow, surely not! Tony'll be along any second to give a perfectly logical and in now way hypocritical explanation for this any moment now!

Either that or he'll ignore it.

[ardmhachaabu]

They probably got the idea from the Irish cabinet ministers and politicians who stayed outside the Church of Ireland cathedral during Douglas Hyde's funeral.

Oh wow, surely not! Tony'll be along any second to give a perfectly logical and in now way hypocritical explanation for this any moment now!

I think his contributions to this thread show him as a complete and total bigot

Business as usual then?

[Banna Man]

Now we know why Peter could not go to Cardinal Dalys Mass. He had some big things of his own to sort out. I wonder if Iris is going to hell now after the afair LOL.


From BBC NI


The wife of Northern Ireland's first minister, Peter Robinson, has said she tried to kill herself while suffering depression after she had an affair.

Mr Robinson, leader of the DUP, said they would try to save their marriage.

Iris Robinson announced in December she was stepping down from politics due to ill health. The couple were married in 1970 and have three grown-up children.

Mr Robinson who has been first minister since June 2008, said he will continue in his job.

In an interview on Wednesday, he said he first learned of the affair on March 1 2009, the night Mrs Robinson attempted suicide.

Mr Robinson, who appeared close to tears, said he had been "deeply hurt" and that his immediate impulse had been to walk away from the marriage.

'Ashamed'

However, he said he had set the affair against 40 years of a loving relationship and had forgiven his wife.

Mrs Robinson said in a statement that she was "completely ashamed and deeply embarrassed" by the affair which had "devastated" her life and the lives of those around her.

She said she began the brief affair while she was supporting a man who had suffered a bereavement.

She said she had also encouraged friends to help him by "providing financial support for a business venture."

Mrs Robinson used the statement to publically apologise to her husband, her wider family and friends.

She said she would "pay any price on earth" to take back the wrong she had done.

She added: "I do not deserve a second chance but I have been given one."

Mrs Robinson said she believes she has been forgiven by God.

Mr Robinson insisted that the revelations would not undermine his role as first minister.

He said he would be back at work on Thursday morning, ready to meet the Sinn Fein deputy first minister, Martin McGuinness.

The development comes as the power sharing arrangements in Northern Ireland are under pressure in a dispute over the timing of devolution of policing and justice.

Financial

Sinn Fein said the powers should be devolved immediately while the DUP say more must be done to build confidence among the unionist community before devolution happens.

During his interview Mr Robinson was also asked if his financial affairs were under investigation.

In reply he said he had always acted "in the most professional and ethical way."

He also confirmed he had received a letter from the BBC which he said contained no allegations against him but "asked questions which are easily answered."

The BBC Spotlight programme has confirmed it has been investigating matters involving Iris Robinson for some time.

In a statement the BBC added that allegations have been put to the Robinsons and their response is awaited.

[T Fearon]

Douglas Hyde's funeral was decades ago. How would people have feltl if the Taioseach and President for example had attended the late Senator Gordon Wilson's home on the occasion of his death but deliberately snubbed the actual funeral service, for that is what Foster and Wilson did