FAI...New Manager is Heimir Hallgrimsson

[RadioGAAGAA]

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

Do what the yanks did to the man currently recognised as the best referee in Africa.

Deny a visa purely based on country of origin.

[Main Street]

I see Scotland's two (h&A) womens internationals v Israel were both played behind closed doors in Hungary. That's really taking the píss if Irish fans can't attend the match.

[Baile Brigín 2]

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

Do what the yanks did to the man currently recognised as the best referee in Africa.

Deny a visa purely based on country of origin.

There was talk of airport unions causing them problems

[trueblue1234]

It's a ridiculous pie in the sky notion to expect other teams to follow Ireland's example should the FAI refuse to play Israel.Either the FAI get commitment first from other nations or hump Israel on the playing pitch. In any event the FAI refusing to play is not an option, that horse has bolted. Israel wont have more than 200 supporters at the games, there will be plenty of opportunity for the motivated football supporters to formulate a protest and garner publicity. Then we know it's coming from real fans and not just activist denizens jumping on a political opportunity bandwagan.

But this is a stand. Not the best one, but realistically the strongest they can make without getting absolutely pulvarised by UEFA.

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

It's not a stand. It's giving Israel exactly what they would want. Ireland lose home advantage and there will be f**k all protests at it. It's the opposite of a stand.
A stand is taken when you're prepared to take the consequences regardless. This is not a stand. The FAI are agreeing to whatever and trying to make it look like a stand, when in fact, Israel are actually benefiting.

[Baile Brigín 2]

It's a ridiculous pie in the sky notion to expect other teams to follow Ireland's example should the FAI refuse to play Israel.Either the FAI get commitment first from other nations or hump Israel on the playing pitch. In any event the FAI refusing to play is not an option, that horse has bolted. Israel wont have more than 200 supporters at the games, there will be plenty of opportunity for the motivated football supporters to formulate a protest and garner publicity. Then we know it's coming from real fans and not just activist denizens jumping on a political opportunity bandwagan.

But this is a stand. Not the best one, but realistically the strongest they can make without getting absolutely pulvarised by UEFA.

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

It's not a stand. It's giving Israel exactly what they would want. Ireland lose home advantage and there will be f**k all protests at it. It's the opposite of a stand.
A stand is taken when you're prepared to take the consequences regardless. This is not a stand. The FAI are agreeing to whatever and trying to make it look like a stand, when in fact, Israel are actually benefiting.

As I said, not the best one, but the strongest protest they can realistically make.

You do know they would have to give minimum 2,500 tickets to the Israelis. So 2,000 Maccabi hoolies in Dublin and a major pro Palestinian protest going on? It's Amsterdam again.

f**k that, you aren't welcome in Ireland, see you in some Hungarian backwater behind closed doors.

[Main Street]

Should both games be played behind closed doors, there will be no fan led protest against the Israelis nor any type of protest. And a closed door scenario in Hungary benefits the Israeli team  enormously viv a vis playing their away game in Ireland or in a neutral stadium  where 95% of those attending would be Irish fans. 

[seafoid]

I wonder who in UEFA is supporting Israel despite the genocide in Gaza and apartheid in the West Bank.
Probably the Germans and the Dutch and maybe the Hungarians. Any others? Bernard O'Byrne tried to get the basketball teams onside and he got backing in private but nobody would take a stand when it was official.
Most countries have 70% unfavourable attitude to Israel but in most cases eg Australia, UK , Ireland the governing elite is anti rocking the boat and effectively pro Israel. UEFA is the same. So the Israel games go ahead.

[trueblue1234]

It's a ridiculous pie in the sky notion to expect other teams to follow Ireland's example should the FAI refuse to play Israel.Either the FAI get commitment first from other nations or hump Israel on the playing pitch. In any event the FAI refusing to play is not an option, that horse has bolted. Israel wont have more than 200 supporters at the games, there will be plenty of opportunity for the motivated football supporters to formulate a protest and garner publicity. Then we know it's coming from real fans and not just activist denizens jumping on a political opportunity bandwagan.

But this is a stand. Not the best one, but realistically the strongest they can make without getting absolutely pulvarised by UEFA.

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

It's not a stand. It's giving Israel exactly what they would want. Ireland lose home advantage and there will be f**k all protests at it. It's the opposite of a stand.
A stand is taken when you're prepared to take the consequences regardless. This is not a stand. The FAI are agreeing to whatever and trying to make it look like a stand, when in fact, Israel are actually benefiting.

As I said, not the best one, but the strongest protest they can realistically make.

You do know they would have to give minimum 2,500 tickets to the Israelis. So 2,000 Maccabi hoolies in Dublin and a major pro Palestinian protest going on? It's Amsterdam again.

f**k that, you aren't welcome in Ireland, see you in some Hungarian backwater behind closed doors.

It's not. They could have made a proper stand and taken whatever consequences comes from it. They have just given Israel what they want, given up home advantage. Let's not pretend they made a stand. They did nothing as they weren't prepared to take the implications of making a stand. Which is fine, but don't try and dress up a turd and tell me that it's a rose.

[Baile Brigín 2]

It's a ridiculous pie in the sky notion to expect other teams to follow Ireland's example should the FAI refuse to play Israel.Either the FAI get commitment first from other nations or hump Israel on the playing pitch. In any event the FAI refusing to play is not an option, that horse has bolted. Israel wont have more than 200 supporters at the games, there will be plenty of opportunity for the motivated football supporters to formulate a protest and garner publicity. Then we know it's coming from real fans and not just activist denizens jumping on a political opportunity bandwagan.

But this is a stand. Not the best one, but realistically the strongest they can make without getting absolutely pulvarised by UEFA.

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

It's not a stand. It's giving Israel exactly what they would want. Ireland lose home advantage and there will be f**k all protests at it. It's the opposite of a stand.
A stand is taken when you're prepared to take the consequences regardless. This is not a stand. The FAI are agreeing to whatever and trying to make it look like a stand, when in fact, Israel are actually benefiting.

As I said, not the best one, but the strongest protest they can realistically make.

You do know they would have to give minimum 2,500 tickets to the Israelis. So 2,000 Maccabi hoolies in Dublin and a major pro Palestinian protest going on? It's Amsterdam again.

f**k that, you aren't welcome in Ireland, see you in some Hungarian backwater behind closed doors.

It's not. They could have made a proper stand and taken whatever consequences comes from it. They have just given Israel what they want, given up home advantage. Let's not pretend they made a stand. They did nothing as they weren't prepared to take the implications of making a stand. Which is fine, but don't try and dress up a turd and tell me that it's a rose.

The consequences being up to a 4 year ban for all national and club teams from international competition.

UEFA are all lined up on this.

The GAA refused to allow a vote on Allianz, yet soccer is supposed to potentially get itself banned?

Let's keep it real world. They made a stand that no other country has done, and that is on top of being the only association that formally complained about Israel last year.

[seafoid]

ISrael are ranked 21
Oireland are ranked 31

https://www.sofascore.com/football/rankings/uefa

[Main Street]

ISrael are ranked 21
Oireland are ranked 31

https://www.sofascore.com/football/rankings/uefa

That the league rankings, not the national teams.

[trueblue1234]

It's a ridiculous pie in the sky notion to expect other teams to follow Ireland's example should the FAI refuse to play Israel.Either the FAI get commitment first from other nations or hump Israel on the playing pitch. In any event the FAI refusing to play is not an option, that horse has bolted. Israel wont have more than 200 supporters at the games, there will be plenty of opportunity for the motivated football supporters to formulate a protest and garner publicity. Then we know it's coming from real fans and not just activist denizens jumping on a political opportunity bandwagan.

But this is a stand. Not the best one, but realistically the strongest they can make without getting absolutely pulvarised by UEFA.

The football team representing Israel, it's officials and fans are not welcome in Dublin. Business as usual cannot happen.

It's not a stand. It's giving Israel exactly what they would want. Ireland lose home advantage and there will be f**k all protests at it. It's the opposite of a stand.
A stand is taken when you're prepared to take the consequences regardless. This is not a stand. The FAI are agreeing to whatever and trying to make it look like a stand, when in fact, Israel are actually benefiting.

As I said, not the best one, but the strongest protest they can realistically make.

You do know they would have to give minimum 2,500 tickets to the Israelis. So 2,000 Maccabi hoolies in Dublin and a major pro Palestinian protest going on? It's Amsterdam again.

f**k that, you aren't welcome in Ireland, see you in some Hungarian backwater behind closed doors.

It's not. They could have made a proper stand and taken whatever consequences comes from it. They have just given Israel what they want, given up home advantage. Let's not pretend they made a stand. They did nothing as they weren't prepared to take the implications of making a stand. Which is fine, but don't try and dress up a turd and tell me that it's a rose.

The consequences being up to a 4 year ban for all national and club teams from international competition.

UEFA are all lined up on this.

The GAA refused to allow a vote on Allianz, yet soccer is supposed to potentially get itself banned?

Let's keep it real world. They made a stand that no other country has done, and that is on top of being the only association that formally complained about Israel last year.

Neither the FAI nor the GAA have imo done the right thing. The GAA should have cut ties with Allianz and the FAI should have refused to play them citing the cases of genocide against the country as the reasons. The GAA were (wrongly)dealing with a commercial business. Agreeing to play the country that is committing that genocide is on a totally different level. The FAI had the opportunity to make a much greater stand than the GAA ever had the opportunity to. Both failed imo and your attempts at point scoring between the GAA and the FAI is well noted.

[Captain Scarlet]

I made the point re the Maccabi hooligans. They would riot, run and international headlines would blacken our name.

Also the FAI are skint and it's not just the Men's National Team they need to worry about.

UEFA would f**k them over and it'd cause massive issues for the entire set up. More job losses!

It's grand talk but there's a reality to it.

UEFA won't do anything and neither will the Govt.

[trueblue1234]

I made the point re the Maccabi hooligans. They would riot, run and international headlines would blacken our name.

Also the FAI are skint and it's not just the Men's National Team they need to worry about.

UEFA would f**k them over and it'd cause massive issues for the entire set up. More job losses!

It's grand talk but there's a reality to it.

UEFA won't do anything and neither will the Govt.

That's fine, but let's not try and dress it up as "taking a stand". There was no stand taken.

[Captain Scarlet]

Oh I didn't say we are taking a stand.

It's like in a job where ya know HR will always protect the company and the boss, you can't really do much.

The FAI need UEFA to back them up and that's never happening.